Which Phenom?

MrBucket

MrBucket

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I was takin a second look at the Phenoms and i was wondering if i should stick with my 9850 BE 125w as planned or go for the 9950BE at 125w, the 9650 at 95w, the 9350e at 2GHz but at only 65w. I'm not too familiar with overclocking but from what i hear lower wattage = lower heat = better overclocking. I'm thinkin the 9950BE but i dunno if i should get the 9650 and try to push it further or what, i have no idea about these new phenoms.
 
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I was takin a second look at the Phenoms and i was wondering if i should stick with my 9850 BE 125w as planned or go for the 9950BE at 125w, the 9650 at 95w, the 9350e at 2GHz but at only 65w. I'm not too familiar with overclocking but from what i hear lower wattage = lower heat = better overclocking. I'm thinkin the 9950BE but i dunno if i should get the 9650 and try to push it further or what, i have no idea about these new phenoms.
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As far as the 9850/9950 thats up to you. There is just 100mhz difference, if you want to pay the extra few bucks go for it. There is no physical difference in the e models. Like the 9350e your talking about. It probable no more than what would have been called a 9550, underclocked 200 mhz with the voltage lowered to hit the 65W spec.
 
Not everyone wants to jump the AMD ship quite yet ;) and it's a pain to invest in a new mobo, especially when the next-gen Intels are going to be incompatible with current boards (not a problem with AMD).

We all know Intel kicks ass at the moment, but we gotta make do with what we've got. ;)

I'm curious as to the answer to this question, as well. Is the Phenom 9650 the next 5000BE?
 
smoothjk said:
I'm curious as to the answer to this question, as well. Is the Phenom 9650 the next 5000BE?
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Dont really understand the question. The 5000BE unlocked has nothing in common with the 9650. I would say maybe something in the Phenom range like the 8750BE could be considered a good deal like the 5000BE was in the Athlon X2.
 
Actually, I probably sounded a bit off there. I was just referring to the 9650's theoretical overclocking abilities (over the higher-end, higher wattage models), just as the X2 5000BE was able to overclock well and perform as well or better than the higher dual core models. I do realize, though, that the 9650 quad does not have the unlocked multiplier...
 
The reason i chose AMD instead of Intel is because the mobo i have will support AM3 cpu's the future, but it's only AM2+ but reviews all over say that future AMD cpu's will be backward compatible for my board. Also i've been changing my mind around to much and i think i finally got a decent build. $850 including shipping and tax for everything in my sig
 
I'm just waiting Until AMD's new quads come out. I hope they will kick but.. Also, AMD is cheaper then Intel at the moment.. LOL.
 
i liked my e8400 setup i had but i spent like 180.00 on that cpu and it did overclock like none ive ever seen, but for what i do i see no differance in my games or just surfing so im AMD again :D Once you go Green and black you dont go bacK lol ANYWAY I WOULD TRY THE X3 8750 BLACK EDITION
 
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zer0_c00l said:
ANYWAY I WOULD TRY THE X3 8750 BLACK EDITION
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I was thinkin about that because alot of the benchmarks i was lookin at showed that cpu's with lower amount's of cores performed better. Then i was readin up and the reason why that is, is because most games NOW don't take full use of the quads, but with Intel and Amd both heavily getting into the quads, i might as well go for pretty decent performance now, and the better matched games for my quad will be coming out soon, what ever those may be. It made sense and i could see what they were talkin about, crysis was being developed when dual cores were big so you can't blame em for not gettin it to run correctly with 4 cores, although i bet they're are drivers and tweaks to change that, if not, then hopefully an official patch soon.
 
Dont waste your money with the Phenoms. Trust me.
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That sounds very convincing... now we all known that Intel CPU s perform better but we'd like a little more than "don't waste your money on Phenoms, trust me". They're still not a bad choice - they perform worse, but they sell for less.
 
bigfellla said:
Dont waste your money with the Phenoms. Trust me.
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Honestly, I wouldn't "waste" my money on a Phenom build from scratch, but for people who are already on AMD mobos hoping to eventually go to AM3, it's a reasonable path. Plus, there's a lot to be said for lower prices.
 
alright well to clear this all up, i haven't ordered the parts yet but would it be better to start over, all i'm really looking for is to run 2 4850's and ability to upgrade to a better processor.With the new Nahalem's coming out they use a new socket = new future motherboard = money i can't really afford to spend. I'm not praising Phenoms but on most benchmarks i see that they do differ from Intels on an average of 10 fps on crysis and COD4, but who notices a difference of 50 fps vs 60? Although that doesn't mean im screwed until my next build in a 1-2-3 years, because of the backwards compatibility with the A3 base AMD upcoming processors, i'm going to for the future performance and decent "now" performance at pretty budget prices, so am i missing something? and should i stray away from the AMD setup?
 
Well if your going Phenom get a 9850. 2.5ghz and on newegg is 169.99 with free shipping.

Q6600+ is 2.4ghz but with even the B3 stepping you can get 3.0ghz and the G0 is a easy 3.6ghz on the overclock which blows Phenom away.

Q6600 = 190 bucks...a good SLI motherboard is about 130-150 bucks or so.


I don't claim to be a genius but if you overclock Q6600 is worth the extra money sadly. I hope AMD brings the fight back to Intel with the 45nm quads though.

I do like the fact the new quads will have backwards support for AM2+ though...clever idea wish Intel did it.

And yes that kills me on the inside to say. Though to be fair I didn't notice any difference on my friends 9850 @ 3.0ghz and his sisters G0 Q6600+ @ 3.6ghz playing Far Cry 2.
 
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hmm. . i also have a question about quad crossfire, escpecially on the board you posted up, it says that with 4 gpu's up they run at 8x+8x+8x+8x = 32x, and regular 2 card crossfire is 16x+16x=32x? so what performance would i see differently between the 2?
 
Better performance at higher resolutions from what I was told. On some review I saw the difference was like 8-9 FPS per GPU @ 1900 x 1440.

More then anything it just allows more processing power for the main GPU. I could be wrong but thats how I was told.
 
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ya go spend money on a board and cpu so you cant tell the differnce lol get the GX revised sb750 vs sb600 ive had both listen to me you will get way better oc with it
 
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