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i would go with the i5 as well, and i even have the 1090t. to be honost, im not impressed with the chip. although it does perform well in everything i have done, i would have been better getting the lower end 6 core, since overclocking this one seems not so good. at stock voltages, i get only 3.7Ghz and thats through the fsb, not the unlocked multiplyer. if i leave the bus alone and overclock witht e multiplyer, on stock voltages i can only get 3.5Ghz. maybe i got a bum cpu from a lower quality bin, i dont know, but even if it did overclock great, i would still get the i5, since it outperforms most current i7s, so in a nut shel, it will spank my 1090t.
i wont overclock so the i5 and gtx 460 is the way to go right?
i will mostly do gaming.
Russ88765
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I'd go for the one with more cores, so i'd pick the 6850/1090t. Actually that's exactly what I got, except it's an Asus 6850 instead of MSI. I'll probably use their software to oc the gpu if I ever become interested in it. The 1090t also has the turbo core technology, which will boost the speed when necessary- eliminating the need to overclock unless you need more than that. AMD also just had a price drop on those cpu's, so it's very budget friendly. If you want a gpu you don't have to overclock and like nvidia, you might try the gtx460 ssc+. Otherwise i'd choose option A.
thanks for input
i think im getting 1090t and a 6850 since i got pretty tight budget, and ive heard 6850 performs pretty well.
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Aastii
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i5 and 460 every day of the week. The 460 is the same performance as your 6850, but, even with 2 less cores, the i5 will outperform the 1090T, even in most multi-threaded applications. The architecture is that much better than it even beats out AMD on more cores
Also, the 460 is a much smaller and cooler card than the 6850 is, which, if you are limited on space, or you don't have great airflow, will be a massive advantage
Also, the 460 is a much smaller and cooler card than the 6850 is, which, if you are limited on space, or you don't have great airflow, will be a massive advantage
Russ88765
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You can't outperform a cpu with more cores- not on multithreaded apps. Though many games do not make full use of quad or bigger, it's good to have the extra ones for when you need them. Nvidia/intel are infamous for putting out more heat than AMD designs, although I will say they are faster for certain things. Amd's phenom ii line is also claimed to be much easier to unlock/overclock. Hard to beat a 6850 if you're on a budget though, I got mine for $160 retail after rebates.
Keep in mind than nvidia and radeon cards are good for different reasons. Some games are coded better for Radeon cards like dirt2 and mafia 2, while others are coded better for nvidia cards like gta4 and metro2033. Nvidia is definitely better with tesselation, and can compute more memory related processes and equations. I think Radeon is better with core processing related things though, and their performance boost technology as well as eyefinity makes up for not having physx/cuda/3dvision imo.
Keep in mind than nvidia and radeon cards are good for different reasons. Some games are coded better for Radeon cards like dirt2 and mafia 2, while others are coded better for nvidia cards like gta4 and metro2033. Nvidia is definitely better with tesselation, and can compute more memory related processes and equations. I think Radeon is better with core processing related things though, and their performance boost technology as well as eyefinity makes up for not having physx/cuda/3dvision imo.
spynoodle
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Go with the i5 2400 and GTX 460. I think that the GTX 460 and Radeon HD 6850 perform about the same, but the difference between the 1090t and i5 2400 is significant.
Both CPUs perform about the same when a program is threaded for more than 4 cores, but for anything threaded for 4 cores or less (which is a lot of software) the i5 will definitely beat the 1090t.
Also, both CPUs have their own technology to auto-boost the CPU frequency. For AMD it's called Turbo Core, and for Intel it's called Turbo Boost. Both these technologies auto-boost the CPU frequency of some of the cores when the other cores aren't being used, to boost performance in apps not designed to be threaded for all the CPU's cores. This helps the 1090t a bit, but not enough to make it better than the i5 2400.
The 1090t overclocks a lot better - the i5 2400 can't overclock at all - but since you're not overclocking, you'll be fine
Check www.videocardbenchmark.net and www.cpubenchmark.net for more info.
Cheers!
Both CPUs perform about the same when a program is threaded for more than 4 cores, but for anything threaded for 4 cores or less (which is a lot of software) the i5 will definitely beat the 1090t.
Also, both CPUs have their own technology to auto-boost the CPU frequency. For AMD it's called Turbo Core, and for Intel it's called Turbo Boost. Both these technologies auto-boost the CPU frequency of some of the cores when the other cores aren't being used, to boost performance in apps not designed to be threaded for all the CPU's cores. This helps the 1090t a bit, but not enough to make it better than the i5 2400.
The 1090t overclocks a lot better - the i5 2400 can't overclock at all - but since you're not overclocking, you'll be fine
Check www.videocardbenchmark.net and www.cpubenchmark.net for more info.
Cheers!
i5 it is then.Go with the i5 2400 and GTX 460. I think that the GTX 460 and Radeon HD 6850 perform about the same, but the difference between the 1090t and i5 2400 is significant.
Both CPUs perform about the same when a program is threaded for more than 4 cores, but for anything threaded for 4 cores or less (which is a lot of software) the i5 will definitely beat the 1090t.
Also, both CPUs have their own technology to auto-boost the CPU frequency. For AMD it's called Turbo Core, and for Intel it's called Turbo Boost. Both these technologies auto-boost the CPU frequency of some of the cores when the other cores aren't being used, to boost performance in apps not designed to be threaded for all the CPU's cores. This helps the 1090t a bit, but not enough to make it better than the i5 2400.
The 1090t overclocks a lot better - the i5 2400 can't overclock at all - but since you're not overclocking, you'll be fine
Check www.videocardbenchmark.net and www.cpubenchmark.net for more info.
Cheers!
last question though.
Gigabyte GA-P41T-D3 motherboard fits with i5 and gtx 460??
Thanks.
Aastii
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Saying less cores can't beat more cores is like saying higher frequency is always faster - it just isn't true. Like I said, the Intel's architecture is that much better than the Phenom II that even in multithreaded aps, it beats out the AMD chip a lot of the time.
Then when you realise that most modern games use 3 cores, not 4 or 6, the performance of the i5, even at stock, is even better, because you have 6 cores on the Thuban, but you are wasting 3 of them.
For overclocking, the 2400 doesn't OC, it isn't an unlocked chip. You get an unlocked one, and show me an AMD chip that can OC to 5GHz on air. I'm not saying every i5 will get to there, that also isn't true as each chip is different, but a hell of a lot of them have been able to hit 4.6GHz+ on air with no issues what so ever. You are lucky if you can get an AMD chip up to those frequencies in the first place.
I am not saying the AMD chips are bad, I'm sat with one in my main system so I'm not some Intel fanboy, but I'm realistic, and although both the AMD and the Intel chip would do everything he needs, for the price, the i5 is the absolute best option. The only way to give the AMD the edge is to drop to a 955 - it will perform as well because, as I said, games don't utilise all of the cores, but cost just a little over $100, rather than double that.
Then the graphics. Both will perform about the same, but the 460 is going to run cooler and is a much smaller card, so would be the better choice. For the sake of a couple of fps, why argue? For all intents and purposes, they may as well be the exact same card in the system - they put out the same pictures at the same rate.
i5 it is then.
last question though.
Gigabyte GA-P41T-D3 motherboard fits with i5 and gtx 460??
Thanks.
No, the board you posted is socket 775, you need a socket 1155 board to use the i5.
You won't be able to buy one at the moment because there was an issue with the chipset, so they have been recalled. You will be able to get one mid March at the earliest probably
spynoodle
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That's an LGA775 mobo. Sorry, it won't work with any of the i5s or i7s.i5 it is then.
last question though.
Gigabyte GA-P41T-D3 motherboard fits with i5 and gtx 460??
Thanks.
For the i5-2400, you'll need an LGA1155 mobo. Make sure that it's not LGA1156.fk i thought that it wont fit dam i guess i have to wait then :[ thanks anyway!