why make lots of sockets?

lol. Well....Both AMD and Intel use 2 different kinds of methods for making their processors, or, they are both made differently. So......im not sure what else to say lol. Though, it would be easier if there was just one socket. But, also the chipsets on the motherboard are made capatible for AMD/Intel, so it wouldnt work with a different processor. Its actually pretty complicated beyond what i can explain lol. Maybe someone else can tell you better then me.

But basically, its becuz both are very different in architecture(im pretty sure thats spelled wrong).
 
Well one reason is that it keeps you from putting a processor on a board what it wont work on, good example is the 462 socket, started with a 100mhz FSB, then 133 to 166 the 200mhz, the early boards that had a 100mhz FSB you could still put a Athlon XP 3200 in it but it ran way underclocked or not at all! So if Intel and AMD used the the same socket on all there processors it would be mass confusion of what processor ran on what board! And they cant all run on all boards because of the boards chipset design!
 
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chrisalviola said:
intel i guess have socket 775,478 and AMD have 754, 939 why not make one socket so we can have same motherboard
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Sounds like a good idea, but it would never work. Both Intel and AMD require different motherboard components, so you couldn't get an Intel to work on an AMD board, since it wouldnt have a memory controller, among various other things.

Both companies keep making new sockets because there forced to, certain sockets are limiting factors and wouldn't allow them to make faster chips. Imagine if they decided to stick with the SLOT type because they thought it would be easier? lol
 
They used to use one socket. I remember the socket/super socket 7 days anything that fit would run on those. You could run a processor from Evergreen, Intel, AMD, Cyrix, IBM, etc all on the same board because they were all x86 clones of a 486 or Pentium or even a Socket 5 CPU (socket 7 only, super didn't have high enough voltages).

As for the reason now, it is because all the pins are used for specific things. Some provide power, others connections to other components (via a bus or hypertransport). For both AMD and Intel to use the same socket again they would need to start making electrically compatible CPUs and settle on who legally owns the rights to a given socket and therefore who has to pay who to use it.
 
Doesn't Intel now have the memory controller on their motherboards while AMD has them in the cpu,might be off topic a little but if theres a memory controller onboard for Intel...then how would the AMD work if they ahd the same socket :)
 
Iluvpenguins said:
Doesn't Intel now have the memory controller on their motherboards while AMD has them in the cpu,might be off topic a little but if theres a memory controller onboard for Intel...then how would the AMD work if they ahd the same socket :)
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That is correct, and also one of the reasons why AMDs can be faster than Intels. Intel has always had the memory controller on the mobo, which just takes longer to access than having it onboard.
 
Iluvpenguins said:
Doesn't Intel now have the memory controller on their motherboards while AMD has them in the cpu,might be off topic a little but if theres a memory controller onboard for Intel...then how would the AMD work if they ahd the same socket :)
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My previous post said:
Sounds like a good idea, but it would never work. Both Intel and AMD require different motherboard components, so you couldn't get an Intel to work on an AMD board, since it wouldnt have a memory controller, among various other things.
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Thats just one example of how it wouldn't work now.


Well, AMD used to be faster, but once intel released the conroe, the tables turned a full 180!
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The Core 2 Duo is better, but AMD's Athlon 64 line still outperform in memory intensive apps due to their onboard memory controller.
 
well the conroes are the newer generation of cpus,i'm sure amd will come up with something soon,the X2's arent exactly new.

EDIT:Bobo beat me.
 
Thats just one example of how it wouldn't work now.
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Right but with electrically compatible CPUs that wouldn't be a problem because they would be pin compatable. If a method could be worked out to reroute the bus (kind of like how a PCIe 16x turns into 2 8x slots if you flip the SLI card around) and you could somehow convince AMD and Intel to use the same socket and pin configuration then they could use the same socket right now then there's no reason it wouldn't work. But as I already said, that's not going to happen.
 
I don't think that AMD and Intel as companies would do something like that, just for the sake of competition.
 
Doesn't Intel now have the memory controller on their motherboards while AMD has them in the cpu
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yep that about right

And once AMD releases their next CPU, the tables will turn 180 again...blah blah blah.
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yeah the K8L and the 4x4... lets not hold our breathe on that one :)

Thats just one example of how it wouldn't work now.
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pretty much the only one apart from socket shape and pin to pin compatibility. As oliver cromewell said they are all based on the x86 architecture

Right but with electrically compatible CPUs that wouldn't be a problem because they would be pin compatable. If a method could be worked out to reroute the bus (kind of like how a PCIe 16x turns into 2 8x slots if you flip the SLI card around) and you could somehow convince AMD and Intel to use the same socket and pin configuration then they could use the same socket right now then there's no reason it wouldn't work. But as I already said, that's not going to happen.
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:confused: who just said that ;)
 
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