never mind. went out to get another 470, and its great. i ran vantage at 1080p resolution and before with 1 470 for rendering and a 260 for physx, i got 10207 for the gpu score, and 36327 for the cpu score. with the 2 470's in sli i got 17041 for the gpu score, and 43014 for the cpu score, (looks like 1 470 holds back the cpu?) one thing i noticed was that my 1st card runs about 10-15c hotter than the 2nd one. my motherboard has the slots spaces out so there is a gap inbetween the cards for good air flow. is this normal for a sli config for 1 card to run warmer than the other? over all im VERY happy