tlarkin
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Yes, if you have a unilateral view of technology then your statement holds true.
Windows or Mac??
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Yes, if you have a unilateral view of technology then your statement holds true.
tlarkin
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No, but the fact remains as simple as this, most people who dislike or bash Macintosh don't know what it is capable of, have never learned the OS, and have barely even used a Mac.
I mean if you actually had lots of experience and knew how to use a mac and stated your opinion I would respect it, but you just spit out 100% biased opinions about the platform. That is not going to help the original Poster, they want actual real information about making their decision.
Like I have said many times, they both have their advantages and disadvantages but in my experience OS X is more stable, runs faster and takes up less hardware specs than vista and it doesn't break every existing technology when they release a new OS.
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INTELCRAZY
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You seriously need to explore the OS world, there's plenty of Linux, of course, Mac which is just a pretty interface, and Windows.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_operating_systems
Not Windows, Windows, and Windows anymore, eh?
Geoff
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They dont have as many viruses because virus programmers would rather focus on Windows based ones, since after all like 90-95% of computer users are on a Windows-based OS. The same goes for FF vs IE.
tlarkin
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[-0MEGA-];721423 said:
That is true, but also you have to realize that a Unix based OS is way more secure by design than windows. I mean any exploit or self propagating virus would need an admin password to install itself. If you run as a non admin for every day to day use you make your Mac (or unix/linux box) just that much more secure.
Basically the kernel controls the hardware and nothing else has access to it. OS doesn't even have direct access to it. The kernel is its own little locked down layer of the OS. Applications, software, etc communicate with it via the shell and require root level access which you have to give it. Where as windows is coded very poorly, making every user run as admin to have access to things and then letting all sorts of applications, drivers, etc run as root level processes giving it direct access to the OS kernel.
I agree with you that if OS X had more of a market share it would be exploited more. I will also say that OS X is not perfect when it comes to security, I have been following their security updates and the people that keep trying to exploit a Mac remotely to prove that the OS is not secure. The thing is, no one has been able to accomplish this yet. The plus side of running a *nix OS is that you won't find the script kiddie of the month using known exploits to kill the OS as you do in windows.
Another huge advantage of *nix OSes and OS X is that there is no freaking registry. All applications are self contained, which I think is way better. Why do you need to give applications access to a system registry which has access to the kernel and what not? It really just does make a mess of things, and even though I have found uses for the registry, I would much rather have .plist files and conf files instead like *nix OSes have.
Third party always comes into debate too, and I agree windows has more third party options. Not only with software, but with things like peripherals, applications, hardware, etc. However, quantity does not equal quality by any means. Apple may have less options, but the upside is those options they have are way more compatible and have way less issues. You never see driver conflicts, you don't see upgrades break existing technologies as much (it happens but barely compared to MS), there is either always a mac version or a mac alternative as well. Really the only thing Mac doesn't have to a PC is gaming. Hardware wise and OS wise the Mac would make a mean gaming rig. Their OS is responsive and has excellent memory management and their hardware is top notch (high quality, quality contorlled) and since its a closed platform developers aren't stressed to make things widely compatible, giving them a better ability to make it work. For example they don't have to code in the possibility for 1000s of different hardware and OS configurations because Apple is more of a closed market. On top of all that I speculate that gaming on a Mac will indeed get bigger and better. EA and id already announced they are going to start releasing their games for the Mac and on top of that they are going to try to make it so their future released are released on both platforms at the same time.
With the release of Leopard, which will be October 2007, Apple has also included a set of APIs they are calling core animation, which is pretty much their version of DX, allowing devs a set of APIs to access hardware and develop 3D and OpenGL support for their applications. That is also hinting that Apple is like hey game devs, if you wanted to you can start making games for us, here are the tools.
tlarkin
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[-0MEGA-];721461 said:
Well see thats what they have been doing, they have had contests and offered even a $10,000 prize if anyone could remotely hack a mac. It still hasn't been done. I think a $10,000 prize would be incentive enough, don't you? After hours at this contest no one was able to remotely exploit the machine, so they changed the rules of the competition.
They had to bend the rules to allow Malicious websites for the hacker to win. Also the exploit that used was in Java not in OS X, so any webkit browser would be susceptible to the attack. Webkit browsers include: Mozilla, Firefox, camino, and of course safari. Also, you would have to be logged in and running as admin for the exploit to have worked, so even then there are conditions to it.
source: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/20/pwn-2-own_winner/
Trust me, there are people out there that are trying to exploit the Mac on a regular basis simply because they hate smug apple users. These people are smart, and if they can't seem to exploit the OS with that much of ease I don't think you would see all the security problems you would as you do with windows. I am sure there would be some though.
tobywuk
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Mac OSX is a linux based operating system so people who say "linux instead" makes no sence. Lots of people say linux these days as they think its cool to be asociated with it.
If you have a mac, you can run both macOSX and windows. best of both worlds + brillient hardware.
P.S. I am a windows user and not some mad MAC finatic who thinks its the best.
If you have a mac, you can run both macOSX and windows. best of both worlds + brillient hardware.
P.S. I am a windows user and not some mad MAC finatic who thinks its the best.
tlarkin
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Technically it is unix based, off of BSD to be exact. I am no fanatic there are plenty of things I dislike about macs, but none of them are deal breakers for me.
I started off as a windows user and like my windows xp box, I just don't like vista at all