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Radeonn

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Hi guys,

At the moment i have 3 desktops and a laptop. One desktop is connected to a modem and a wireless router that send wireless internet around the house. The other 2 desktops get terrible reception especially when the main computers on and the laptop is generally fine.

Due to the terrible speed, i'm seeing if i can get an electrician to wire up 2 extra internet ports for the other 2 desktops. He said he could do it but im still not sure about some things..

1. If he does split the internet into 3 ports, would he just put an adapter onto the main one and run cables from that? Or would he have to do something inside the main port.

2. Would the speed be alot slower if all computers where on the net at the same time? ..or would the speed be slower in general?

Thanks!
 
Radeonn said:
Hi guys,

At the moment i have 3 desktops and a laptop. One desktop is connected to a modem and a wireless router that send wireless internet around the house. The other 2 desktops get terrible reception especially when the main computers on and the laptop is generally fine.

Due to the terrible speed, i'm seeing if i can get an electrician to wire up 2 extra internet ports for the other 2 desktops. He said he could do it but im still not sure about some things..

1. If he does split the internet into 3 ports, would he just put an adapter onto the main one and run cables from that? Or would he have to do something inside the main port.

2. Would the speed be alot slower if all computers where on the net at the same time? ..or would the speed be slower in general?

Thanks!
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Im not fully understanding what your set up is. To me it sounds like you have a 4 port wireless router, and yes you should get alot better speeds if you ran it hardwired as compared to wireless. I get drop outs on my wireless sometimes if im pretty far away. As far as the other desktops getting crappier reception when the First desktop is on...you'll use more bandwidth but the signal on the router should stay the same.

"One desktop is connected to a modem and a wireless router that send wireless internet around the house. "

Are you trying to say you have a dsl/cable modem that goes to the router then to your computer?
 
teamhex said:
"One desktop is connected to a modem and a wireless router that send wireless internet around the house. "

Are you trying to say you have a dsl/cable modem that goes to the router then to your computer?
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Yeah - theres the port in the wall which runs into a 4 socket d-link router and a modem and then into my pc. And the router sends internet around the house.
 
Radeonn said:
Yeah - theres the port in the wall which runs into a 4 socket d-link router and a modem and then into my pc. And the router sends internet around the house.
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So your router is also a modem? If not why are you running it like that? It should come out of the wall into your modem(dsl/cable) then go to a router which gives to hardwired ports and sending wireless.
 
oh, what i mean is it goes..

Wall Socket --> Motorola Surfboard Cable Modem --> D link Wireless router.

What i'm asking is what the electrician would do to the wall socket to split it into 3 so that a wire could run to the other 2 pc's and whether or not it would slow the speed down.

Sorry if i've been a bit confusing =)

Thanks!
 
Radeonn said:
oh, what i mean is it goes..

Wall Socket --> Motorola Surfboard Cable Modem --> D link Wireless router.

What i'm asking is what the electrician would do to the wall socket to split it into 3 so that a wire could run to the other 2 pc's and whether or not it would slow the speed down.

Sorry if i've been a bit confusing =)

Thanks!
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This is very confusing...Is the electrician going to run ethernet cable through the wall to the other computers?

It may be just me, but I've read this like 10 times and I think I'm getting more confused.
 
lol yes, we are trying to get an electrician in to put ethernet cables through the walls to the other computers so they have wired internet.

=P sorry, finding it hard to explain
 
Radeonn said:
lol yes, we are trying to get an electrician in to put ethernet cables through the walls to the other computers so they have wired internet.

=P sorry, finding it hard to explain
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Its not hard, I recently did it myself to get rid of about 80+ft of excess cable that was hanging out of my wall :) . Its a matter of getting a roll of cable and the correct male and female ends. The right tool to terminate it, and the knowledge of making cat5 cables.
Heres a link of a pic I cant see it im at work
http://www.computerforum.com/132514-help-making-rj-11-rj-45-a.html
 
Radeonn said:
1. If he does split the internet into 3 ports, would he just put an adapter onto the main one and run cables from that? Or would he have to do something inside the main port.

2. Would the speed be alot slower if all computers where on the net at the same time? ..or would the speed be slower in general?

Thanks!
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1) He will just use your d-link router to split the connections assuming it's one of the ones with a built in switch. If the back of your dlink doesn't have multiple Ethernet jacks you may need to purchase another piece of hardware.

2) The speed shouldn't be to much less then they currently are. Depending on how fast your connection to the internet is and what your doing you may notice a slight difference in speed. For example if one of the computers are downloading something the other PC's speed may be temporarily effected, how ever with normal internet surfing you shouldn't notice a difference.
 
Thanks for the replies - I think i might try laying out my own cables this weekend. I'm completely new at this so i basically just get sone long ethernet cables and lay them along the walls? I dont think i can do it inside the walls because i know nothing about threading wires through the inside of the walls and drilling holes in the walls (i might hit a wire or something) so i will probably end up putting the wires along the outside of the house.

Does anyone know a guide to doing this? or can suggest what casing i would use on the wires to protect them from rain etc. And if its relatively easy i might try threading through the walls - doubt it though =P

Thanks!
 
Radeonn said:
Thanks for the replies - I think i might try laying out my own cables this weekend. I'm completely new at this so i basically just get sone long ethernet cables and lay them along the walls? I dont think i can do it inside the walls because i know nothing about threading wires through the inside of the walls and drilling holes in the walls (i might hit a wire or something) so i will probably end up putting the wires along the outside of the house.

Does anyone know a guide to doing this? or can suggest what casing i would use on the wires to protect them from rain etc. And if its relatively easy i might try threading through the walls - doubt it though =P

Thanks!
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Check wikipedia, it will have a wiring guide for the different types. Its not hard, just use a B type Straight Through when you make the ends. Make sure all ends are type B. Its not hard but its not easy at the same time. Its a process, if you've done it it would go smoothly, but its your first time. It takes some finesse to make connections. The female ends will be no problem, there always color coded and will say what you should do for Type A and Type B. The male ends take some finger work simply because you have to straighten out each wire and line them up right. My dads a general handy man and he did it by himself without help so im sure you can do it.

Things you will need


Cat5(e) Cable
Male Ends
Female Ends-Get the push down ones, no tool needed
Crimping Tool for Male ends.
Wall plate that will handle the amount and type of connectors going in the wall.
If you can a tool to test your cable(most likely wont be in the cards for ya)
 
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teamhex said:
Check wikipedia, it will have a wiring guide for the different types. Its not hard, just use a B type Straight Through when you make the ends. Make sure all ends are type B. Its not hard but its not easy at the same time. Its a process, if you've done it it would go smoothly, but its your first time. It takes some finesse to make connections. The female ends will be no problem, there always color coded and will say what you should do for Type A and Type B. The male ends take some finger work simply because you have to straighten out each wire and line them up right. My dads a general handy man and he did it by himself without help so im sure you can do it.

Things you will need


Cat5(e) Cable
Male Ends
Female Ends-Get the push down ones, no tool needed
Crimping Tool for Male ends.
Wall plate that will handle the amount and type of connectors going in the wall.
If you can a tool to test your cable(most likely wont be in the cards for ya)
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Before you cut the cable to length practice making an end and leave some room for error. It can be easy to get frustrated when the pairs don't cooperate going into the RJ-45 connector.
 
OK, i'll get started this weekend. But before i do could you link me directly to the wikipedia page please? im not completely sure what im looking for =P

Thanks!
 
Radeonn said:
OK, i'll get started this weekend. But before i do could you link me directly to the wikipedia page please? im not completely sure what im looking for =P

Thanks!
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Im sorry im at work I cant get to wikipedia....stupid school district says its not a reputable source because its user edited. Type in RJ-45 and you should find all you need. That and instructions come with the connectors.
 
ok thanks - i found it. Also, sorry to be a nuisance but i went to the shops today to look for the right cables and i found all these different types of cables. Dick Smith had some 15m CAT6 cables and EB had 15m CAT5 cables (they looked like the right ones being blue and all) and a 2 dollar shop had what they claimed was the same thing for a cheaper price - However they where white and seemed to be telephone cables.

would the quality of these cables affect the internet? are telephone cables the same types of cables? they had the same plug on the end as the others, and whats the difference between CAT5 and CAT6?

thanks!
 
Radeonn said:
ok thanks - i found it. Also, sorry to be a nuisance but i went to the shops today to look for the right cables and i found all these different types of cables. Dick Smith had some 15m CAT6 cables and EB had 15m CAT5 cables (they looked like the right ones being blue and all) and a 2 dollar shop had what they claimed was the same thing for a cheaper price - However they where white and seemed to be telephone cables.

would the quality of these cables affect the internet? are telephone cables the same types of cables? they had the same plug on the end as the others, and whats the difference between CAT5 and CAT6?

thanks!
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A 2 dollar shop? lol Sounds like a 99cent store where I live but for 2 bux lol.
You need Cat5 or Cat5e
Instead of typing it I found a link
http://www.home-network-help.com/transmission-speed.html
So are you running cable through your wall? Just any old Cat5 or 6 will work, 6 will be more expensive and you don't need it seeing as your network will not be supporting Gigabit speeds and even Cat5e will do gigabit or at least close to it.
 
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