Winchester Model 1887 - MW2

What should IW do about the Winchesters?

  • Leave them the way they are

    Votes: 13 38.2%

  • Balance them (reduce damage, range, etc.)

    Votes: 20 58.8%

  • Take them out all together!

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Total voters
    34
You could realistically have dedicated servers on consoles too, even if they were rented through xbox live or the playstation network. Theres very little difference between consoles and PCs now anyway.

I could definitely see glitches like that being retarded with it.
 
uk80glue said:
You could realistically have dedicated servers on consoles too, even if they were rented through xbox live or the playstation network. Theres very little difference between consoles and PCs now anyway.

I could definitely see glitches like that being retarded with it.
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Yea but it just wouldn't be the same. The whole thing with PC's is the customization and modding and what not. That would be a rather difficult to accomplish with consoles.
 
Modding sure, but customized servers aren't a stretch at all. Wouldn't take much and the added revenue from renting servers they're already using would more than cover it I'd imagine.
 
I said leave it as it is.

you do realise that you can use them too right, so it is ofcourse completely balanced, it isn't like they have the advantage of having the gun and you don't, and if you then can't kill people with them then it proves that it isn't the gun that are overpowered, it is you that sucks at killing people, so you can't complain.

It is just another obstacle to overcome; in CoD4 p90 was overpowered, in CoD:WaW ptrs was, but people got over it and carried on; you get rid of these and some other gun will then be overpowered and you will still get people crying about it, IW are in a lose lose situation and they proved they don't care about the player so aren't going to start making fixes now; less work for them, same outcome :)
 
Aastii said:
I said leave it as it is.

you do realise that you can use them too right, so it is ofcourse completely balanced, it isn't like they have the advantage of having the gun and you don't, and if you then can't kill people with them then it proves that it isn't the gun that are overpowered, it is you that sucks at killing people, so you can't complain.

It is just another obstacle to overcome; in CoD4 p90 was overpowered, in CoD:WaW ptrs was, but people got over it and carried on; you get rid of these and some other gun will then be overpowered and you will still get people crying about it, IW are in a lose lose situation and they proved they don't care about the player so aren't going to start making fixes now; less work for them, same outcome :)
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I disagree. You can't just call something balanced because everybody has access to it. With that logic, the only way to make the game truly balanced would be if every single person in every game was either using them or not using them at all. Not everybody wants to run around with akimbo shotguns, it is after all a MODERN warfare themed game. But I don't so much have a problem with people using them as sidearms, but I'd say 90% of the users slap them on an SMG class, with marathon, lightweight, and steady aim pro. So they're basically flying around the damn map lighting people up at ridiculous distances with these things.

Haven't you not even bought the game yet? So how can you make a fair decision on these guns? Trust me, they're FAR worse than any OP gun in any CoD game. I think it's ignorant to just say; oh well, there are always OP guns in every game, who cares! The fact of the matter is, this is really the only one truly overpowered gun in the game. It's pretty damn balanced otherwise. It's rumored that the next update is going to tone them down, which has to say something.
 
IMO people complain to much:rolleyes: play it an be happy or don't play it at all;)

Also I haven't had any problems with getting killed by the 1887. I played for about 4hours yesterday and didn't get killed by them once. I also could never kill anybody when I picked them up. Even shooting from point blank I still got killed every time.
 
So what you're saying is it's really only overpowered with certain perks, which means theres really no reason do anything to the weapon itself.
 
Fatback said:
IMO people complain to much:rolleyes: play it an be happy or don't play it at all;)

Also I haven't had any problems with getting killed by the 1887. I played for about 4hours yesterday and didn't get killed by them once. I also could never kill anybody when I picked them up. Even shooting from point blank I still got killed every time.
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If you weren't killed by them once, than the people using them sucked big time. You don't even have to aim, seriously, you just shoot in their general direction and it will often times result in a head shot. I also find it hard to believe that you weren't able to get any kills with them

And there is nothing wrong with complaining, I think sometimes people think they're more mature or something if they just say something like "oh stop complaining, just play the game!" NO, I will complain, I paid $60 for the damn thing, and not only do these guns totally unbalance the game, but now I can't even get a legitimate domination game, I can't tell you how many times I've been put into never ending ones on Rust.

uk80glue said:
So what you're saying is it's really only overpowered with certain perks, which means theres really no reason do anything to the weapon itself.
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It's overpowered either way, but when people do use those mentioned perks, it just makes it 10 times worse.
 
Droogie said:
I disagree. You can't just call something balanced because everybody has access to it. With that logic, the only way to make the game truly balanced would be if every single person in every game was either using them or not using them at all. Not everybody wants to run around with akimbo shotguns, it is after all a MODERN warfare themed game. But I don't so much have a problem with people using them as sidearms, but I'd say 90% of the users slap them on an SMG class, with marathon, lightweight, and steady aim pro. So they're basically flying around the damn map lighting people up at ridiculous distances with these things.

Haven't you not even bought the game yet? So how can you make a fair decision on these guns? Trust me, they're FAR worse than any OP gun in any CoD game. I think it's ignorant to just say; oh well, there are always OP guns in every game, who cares! The fact of the matter is, this is really the only one truly overpowered gun in the game. It's pretty damn balanced otherwise. It's rumored that the next update is going to tone them down, which has to say something.
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No I haven't bought it yet, but having played it for quite a while on the xbox (at a friends), I know the game and I know the guns you are on about. And they may not be balanced, but my point isn't because everyone can use them they are balanced, my point is ANYONE can use them, so it is fair, it is hardly like you are at a disadvantage becuase you don't have the option to have them, because, like everyone else, you clearly do.

Fatback said:
IMO people complain to much:rolleyes: play it an be happy or don't play it at all;)
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+1, I think that this thread is just the "let droogie rant about sucking at MW2 - thread" :P jk ofcourse
 
Droogie said:
If you weren't killed by them once, than the people using them sucked big time. You don't even have to aim, seriously, you just shoot in their general direction and it will often times result in a head shot. I also find it hard to believe that you weren't able to get any kills with them
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Maybe but there wasn't that many people using them in the first place. The few people that were using them never killed me and I easily took them out with my Aug(or whatever gun I was using). Then picked them up(because I am only LV63 so I don't have them myself) and could never kill anybody with them. Also because every time you shoot he spins the guns often results in me getting killed.


Droogie said:
And there is nothing wrong with complaining, I think sometimes people think they're more mature or something if they just say something like "oh stop complaining, just play the game!" NO, I will complain, I paid $60 for the damn thing, and not only do these guns totally unbalance the game, but now I can't even get a legitimate domination game, I can't tell you how many times I've been put into never ending ones on Rust.
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There is no such thing as a balanced game not that I have played anyways(expect for the ones where weapons are just for looks and they all have the same damage. Which then it's just boring because if you suck it's no fun to play). There is always going to be a better weapon. It's been proven time and time again and will likely never change.

I only play ground war and TD so I haven't been in one of those glitched private match games. Although I did join a game yesterday on GW and every body was doing a glitch. Where they have unlimited grenade lanuchers, missiles, etc and just keep holding the trigger down shooting them. It was a little annoying but I didn't think anything of it. I just quite and joined a different game.
 
I understand that every game is going to have SLIGHT imbalance, and obviously there will be guns that are better than others, but that is no reason not to fix a completely broken gun (the Winchester). I believe you will see it tweaked in the next patch anyway, which will be great.
 
I don't really care if they do or don't. They don't bother me and I probably will never use them. Sense we are complaining about MW2 if anything needs to be fixed it's the stinger because it's very irritating getting killed by it from the other side of the map. Or when somebody walks in a room and shoots it and it kills everybody. The stinger should be for vehicles only or make it so you have to at least see you're target.
 
Fatback said:
I don't really care if they do or don't. They don't bother me and I probably will never use them. Sense we are complaining about MW2 if anything needs to be fixed it's the stinger because it's very irritating getting killed by it from the other side of the map. Or when somebody walks in a room and shoots it and it kills everybody. The stinger should be for vehicles only or make it so you have to at least see you're target.
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the stinger? or the AT4? the singer requires lock on to fire
 
Droogie said:
well at least they fixed the javelin glitch. but yea, i hate when people randomly fire it and kill like 3 people at your spawn.
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Yea it's gets a little irritating after about 3 times in a row. I have played games Where the whole team pulls at a javelin and fires it straight up and kills the whole team at spawn. Oh well what are you going to do.
 
the whole argument about well you get them at lvl 67 so you dont see many with them, thats bs, because there are usually atleast 4 people a game or more with them and thats all they use alot wont prestige and continue to use them, i think they should leave the damage take the range a way and take akimbo away
 
I actualy got to use them today,someone died and i picked them up...Anyway i was very far away from the enemy and with those shottys i got him!

Way way too powerfull for the game if i must say!

I dont think they should be removed,But they should lower the distance and damage amount imo....because everyones getting quite high ranked now and the newer players stand no chance realy against these guns.

Noob tubes were a problem at the start,Now its those shottys lol
 
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