laptop needed for college

voyagerfan99 said:
I can game perfectly fine with the Quadro 160M in my Latitude.
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You can game but they aren't made for gaming. Gaming cards are over clocked and run faster and run at higher speeds, but lack in the backbone and stability of a work station card. You are going to always get better gaming performance from a gaming card.
 
i did really like the asus i posted. i am using programs like CAD/CAM, but i doubt i will get into any really heavy rendering. i want my laptop to also appeal to me visually, i dont really like the way most laptops look O_o
 
tlarkin said:
You can game but they aren't made for gaming. Gaming cards are over clocked and run faster and run at higher speeds, but lack in the backbone and stability of a work station card. You are going to always get better gaming performance from a gaming card.
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I've put quadros in rigs for people i've built systems for, reference cards between a gaming card and the identical quadro model are the same. The only differences are the BIOS on the gpu, drivers for the GPU, and only on the higher end ones, the amount of memory on the gpu.
 
bomberboysk said:
I've put quadros in rigs for people i've built systems for, reference cards between a gaming card and the identical quadro model are the same. The only differences are the BIOS on the gpu, drivers for the GPU, and only on the higher end ones, the amount of memory on the gpu.
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Correct, and you can technically "softmod" a quadro to give it the gaming side stuff and then revert it back to quadro later on. I am not saying you can't game with them, I am saying why would you?

i want my laptop to also appeal to me visually, i dont really like the way most laptops look O_o
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Well then I hate to say it, but get a Macbook Pro then. Sexiest laptop there is. Slim design, aluminum unibody casing, and every feature you'd need. Plus extended battery life, SMS, ambient light sensor, back lit keyboard, IPS supported screen (the highest quality of screens go in mac laptops), the dual Nvidia GPU set, and it can run any OS out there.
 
Drenlin said:
^ I dunno man...they're nice looking for sure, but the sexiest? IMO this Sager outdoes it:
http://www.sagernotebook.com/product_customed.php?pid=258533

Besides, he said in the OP it needs to be windows-based.
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1 - Macs can run Windows

2 - While Sagers are kind of in their own category of laptop (super high end hardware) they lack mobility, have horrible battery life, and are freaking huge and heavy. MBP is 1" thick and weighs approx 5lbs. I think Sager laptops are good machines, but I kind of put them in their own category when comparing them to other laptops. Plus it is plastic and looks cheaply made compared to the sleek aluminum alloy unibody of a macbook pro. That is just my opinion on the looks though.

I didn't say he had to get a Macbook Pro, I suggested he consider it.
 
1- Why buy a mac if you're only going to run windows on it? :confused:

2- I was only talking about the looks...that one is awesome. The logo on the back is a bit much, maybe, but I love the interior of it.
 
Drenlin said:
^ I dunno man...they're nice looking for sure, but the sexiest? IMO this Sager outdoes it:
http://www.sagernotebook.com/product_customed.php?pid=258533

Besides, he said in the OP it needs to be a Windows PC.

edit: Newegg.ca has the Asus G73JH-X1 back in stock...same one that Johnny posted. It's got a 1080p display, an i7, and a 5870.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220695
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Uh that sager would be rated near the bottom for aesthetic appeal. It's completely made of plastic and it's got random LED lights all over it. Not really classy at all.

If he's looking for style then either a macbook pro or some HP laptops. My dad just bought one and the entire body is made of brushed aluminum and looks actually really nice.
 
^ You think so? I rather like it...

Of course, I'm also a fan of how the Gateway FX line looks...to each his own I guess.
 
Drenlin said:
1- Why buy a mac if you're only going to run windows on it? :confused:

2- I was only talking about the looks...that one is awesome. The logo on the back is a bit much, maybe, but I love the interior of it.
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You can run any OS on a Mac. He could get the best out of both worlds. He could render his CAD/Autodesk stuff on Windows side and then chop them up and edit them on say Final Cut Studio on the Mac side. he would have access to all the Mac only apps which are powerful and awesome for what they do.

I don't like how the Sagers look. I also don't really consider them a laptop, they are more like a small portable desktop if you ask me. Laptops really are all about mobility (in my mind) and that is why I like to classify Sager off in their own category. An engineering or architecture firm isn't going to deploy Sagers to their employees. They will just build/buy them a power work station desktop and give them a sleek laptop.
 
tlarkin said:
You can run any OS on a Mac. He could get the best out of both worlds. He could render his CAD/Autodesk stuff on Windows side and then chop them up and edit them on say Final Cut Studio on the Mac side. he would have access to all the Mac only apps which are powerful and awesome for what they do.
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But when a similarly-priced Asus has much better resolution(BIG bonus for for CAD), and is nearly three times as powerful, what's the point? And there are equally powerful editing apps on Windows...personally I'd rather be able to do it all in one OS.

I don't like how the Sagers look. I also don't really consider them a laptop, they are more like a small portable desktop if you ask me. Laptops really are all about mobility (in my mind) and that is why I like to classify Sager off in their own category. An engineering or architecture firm isn't going to deploy Sagers to their employees. They will just build/buy them a power work station desktop and give them a sleek laptop.
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Heh..."sleek" is not the word I'd use for industrial workstations. :P

Also, you're right that you won't see a Sager in the workplace, but TS doesn't have the budget for a powerful Quadro/FireGL based system.
 
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I think we have gone over this before, PC laptops as a general rule do not have as high end screens as Apples. Apple laptops all have IPS supported screens. Look at any high end designer (regardless of app be it CS4, CAD,3D rendering, etc) all of them rave about IPS screens.
 
I think the fact that it's 1440x900/15" versus 1920x1080/17" trumps the fact that the Mac has IPS. And it's not like Asus uses bad displays. Sure, it won't match the Mac in color/contrast, but it's still well above average. It's probably better for gaming, too...IPS screens generally have a slower reaction time compared to TN panels.
 
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Drenlin said:
I think the fact that it's 1440x900 versus 1920x1080 trumps the fact that the Mac has IPS. And it's not like Asus uses bad displays...
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Isn't that on a 17inch display? versus the MBP 13 or 15 inch? Apple's 17 inch screen supports 1920x1200 and the 15 inch does 1440x900 and the 13 inch does 1280 x 800.

If I recall the Asus you linked was in fact a 17 inch screen? No?

Slower reaction time? The response times are all under 4ms, and they have a higher bandwidth of video going to the screen at a faster refresh rate.
 
tlarkin said:
Isn't that on a 17inch display? versus the MBP 13 or 15 inch? Apple's 17 inch screen supports 1920x1200 and the 15 inch does 1440x900 and the 13 inch does 1280 x 800.

If I recall the Asus you linked was in fact a 17 inch screen? No?

Slower reaction time? The response times are all under 4ms, and they have a higher bandwidth of video going to the screen at a faster refresh rate.
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What the 17" macbook can do is irrelevant...it's well out of TS's price range. Also, it's still not even half as powerful. 4ms is pretty impressive for an IPS though.

Asus also has a 15.6" 1080p model, btw:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220700
The GPU is a GTS 360m though...not quite as good as the mobility 5870, and personally I'd prefer the bigger screen.
 
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Drenlin said:
What the 17" macbook can do is irrelevant...it's well out of TS's price range. Also, it's still not even half as powerful

Asus's high end 15" models do 1080p as well, btw.

4ms is pretty impressive for an IPS though.
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All Mac laptops have mini display out, which is HDMI out with 7.1 audio. Mini display is an Apple technology but also an open technology, meaning any company can use it, and it is 100% HDMI compliant.
 
What the hell does that have to do with anything? :confused:

If you're wanting to argue about video outputs, both Asus models have both HDMI and VGA, and I'm pretty sure both will handle high resolutions much better than the 9600...
 
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I was talking about the screen itself...in response to the comment about how it scales. I'm sure they can all do much higher than 1080p using the HDMI/DP outputs.
 
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