4890 vs 5850

Matthew1990

Matthew1990

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Hello there peeps

I will be getting a new card soon-ish, I think the prices of older gen cards will start to go down, I'll wait till may and then decide. I will be looking at ATI since nVidia cards are priced over the roof, GTX 275 etc.

I narrowed it to 4890 and 5850, they look similiar in performance but 5850 had DX11 and runs cooler, at least the model I have been looking at. Anyone else have something to say about those two naughty GPUs???


Cheers!
 
Matthew1990 said:
Hello there peeps

I will be getting a new card soon-ish, I think the prices of older gen cards will start to go down, I'll wait till may and then decide. I will be looking at ATI since nVidia cards are priced over the roof, GTX 275 etc.

I narrowed it to 4890 and 5850, they look similiar in performance but 5850 had DX11 and runs cooler, at least the model I have been looking at. Anyone else have something to say about those two naughty GPUs???


Cheers!
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Is GTX 275 more expensive than 5850?.. i have two gtx 275's in my rig..:o

But, if you have really decided to only buy one of those two, go for 5850. But keep in mind that both those cards DO suck in terms of performance in new games.. You'll be lucky with medium settings, and have to use low at certain points in some games (shadowing, reduce view distance etc..).. Forget about playing in 1920x1080 or even 1280×720 in any current game with the exeption of MW2 and low-end games plus console ports..:rolleyes:

I just want you to be aware of that.. so you won't be extremely disappointed when you stick em' into your case. ;)
 
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The 5850 all the way. Its quite a bit more powerful than the 4890.

O dear god ryeong, givve me a break, these cards will play almost every game on max settings do your research.

The 5850 is much better than the 275.
 
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If you dont mind spending the extra then the 5850 because of DX11...but you wouldnt be dissapointed with a 4890 either.
 
Ryeong said:
Is GTX 275 more expensive than 5850?.. i have two gtx 275's in my rig..:o

But, if you have really decided to only buy one of those two, go for 5850. But keep in mind that both those cards DO suck in terms of performance in new games.. You'll be lucky with medium settings, and have to use low at certain points in some games (shadowing, reduce view distance etc..).. Forget about playing in 1920x1080 or even 1280×720 in any current game with the exeption of MW2 and low-end games plus console ports..:rolleyes:

I just want you to be aware of that.. so you won't be extremely disappointed when you stick em' into your case. ;)
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Uhh, no you dont. Look at some benchmarks and see how the cards perform, the 4890 beats the GTX275 in almost all benchies and overclocks like a dream, and the 5850 kicks both of them to dust:

Game tests start here for this review:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5850-review-crossfire/11

And some interesting data from ATI Stream, if you think cuda is so great:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5850-review-crossfire/20
 
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Nevakonaza said:
If you dont mind spending the extra then the 5850 because of DX11...but you wouldnt be dissapointed with a 4890 either.
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True.

bomberboysk said:
Uhh, no you dont. Look at some benchmarks and see how the cards perform, the 4890 beats the GTX275 in almost all benchies and overclocks like a dream, and the 5850 kicks both of them to dust:

Game tests start here for this review:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5850-review-crossfire/11
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With 5 fps lol without crossfireX.. GTX 275 seems to be cheaper than 5850 in my area.

Now, i don't really see how 5 fps is to "kick someone to dust". Look at the NON Crossfire benches.. you'll see that it's only 5 fps..:o

The 4890 is the one being crushed. 16 fps less than 5850 and 11 less than gtx 275:rolleyes:

Edit: If the 5xxx is only slightly faster than 295 in video encoding. then they'll be crushed by 480 because it has many more cuda-cores :)
 
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Gooberman said:
go with the 5850, don't listen to Ryeong about anything lol xD 5850 > GTX285
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My friend has a 5850 on a 1080p tv, and he is NOT pleased with the results in games such as Just cause 2, BC2 etc etc in 1920x1080..

Edit: Sure if drooling around with 30-35 fps is okay for you then it's not a problem. I think 60 fps in a game is good..
 
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Ryeong said:
True.



With 5 fps lol without crossfireX.. GTX 275 seems to be cheaper than 5850 in my area.

Now, i don't really see how 5 fps is to "kick someone to dust". Look at the NON Crossfire benches.. you'll see that it's only 5 fps..:o

The 4890 is the one being crushed. 16 fps less than 5850 and 11 less than gtx 275:rolleyes:

Edit: If the 5xxx is only slightly faster than 295 in video encoding. then they'll be crushed by 480 because it has many more cuda-cores :)
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Take a look further through all the benchmarks, you'll see that in many games the 5850 has far more than 5fps on it. Not to mention DX11 and such. The 4890 beats the GTX275 in all but about two of those benchmarks.
 
I agree go with the 5850 if you can spend the extra money. I think you will be happy with either one just get what you can afford.

Also Reyong you don't seem to know very much about GPUs outside of what you see in benchmarks. A little piece of info forget about the benchmarks most of them are not very accurate. Every system varys and the only way to know the real performance of a card or system is to just use it. I can still play 50% of most new games at high settings with my 4850 at 1280x1024.
 
bomberboysk said:
Take a look further through all the benchmarks, you'll see that in many games the 5850 has far more than 5fps on it. Not to mention DX11 and such. The 4890 beats the GTX275 in all but about two of those benchmarks.
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It seems like HD 5850 is much more expensive than GTX 275. If you're willing to pay 100 dollars or more for 7 fps, and DX11 then go for it.. (varies from one contry to another)
 
Ryeong said:
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It seems like HD 5850 is much more expensive than GTX 275. If you're willing to pay 100 dollars or more for 7 fps, and DX11 then go for it.. (varies from one contry to another)
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Again, you are comparing a SINGLE GAME. Take a look at how it performs in other games:
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Not to mention, the 5850 cards consume less power:
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Ryeong said:
Is GTX 275 more expensive than 5850?.. i have two gtx 275's in my rig..:o

But, if you have really decided to only buy one of those two, go for 5850. But keep in mind that both those cards DO suck in terms of performance in new games.. You'll be lucky with medium settings, and have to use low at certain points in some games (shadowing, reduce view distance etc..).. Forget about playing in 1920x1080 or even 1280×720 in any current game with the exeption of MW2 and low-end games plus console ports..:rolleyes:

I just want you to be aware of that.. so you won't be extremely disappointed when you stick em' into your case. ;)
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im rocking the cheap asse powercolour 5850 (that is the same price as the asus 5850) that is a poor performer as ryeong says but it manages to play battlefeild bad company 2 on high detail etc etc??

dam man your info sucks hairy plums......
 
You can pick up 4890's for around $160-170 shipped these days. A 5850 is hardly worth double the price of a 4890.

And for those that keep talking about DX11 and acting like it's a huge deal, what DX11 games do you even play? If any at all, I'm betting that it's just Dirt2 because it came with your card. ooooooo
 
bc2, the detail in that game with dx11 is very very nice!!

i no because i played it on a BFG 8800oc2, XFX 4890 and the POWERCOLOUR 5850
 
87dtna said:
You can pick up 4890's for around $160-170 shipped these days. A 5850 is hardly worth double the price of a 4890.

And for those that keep talking about DX11 and acting like it's a huge deal, what DX11 games do you even play? If any at all, I'm betting that it's just Dirt2 because it came with your card. ooooooo
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Except for games that dont scale well in crossfire(Flight sim X, GTA IV, etc), as well as more and more DX11 games will be coming out.
 
bomberboysk said:
Again, you are comparing a SINGLE GAME.
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Still, the difference is very small. 2 -10 fps.. That's really not worth the extra 100 buck. On the other side, you'll get DX11.. But, the card wont do any good with tesselation. Try run the card with tesselation in heaven.. I'm just saying that it won't handle upcoming DX11 titles with tesselation good.. You know that.

funkysnair said:
im rocking the cheap asse powercolour 5850 (that is the same price as the asus 5850) that is a poor performer as ryeong says but it manages to play battlefeild bad company 2 on high detail etc etc??

dam man your info sucks hairy plums......
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It won't handle BC2 in 1920x1080 in DX11.. In DX 10 it will struggle, and you'll need to lower either resolution or settings. I'm sorry, but that's a fact.. If this card only performs 3 - 10 fps better than 275 then i can with my own experiences tell you that it wont do any good...

I almost double my fps in this game when i activate my second card. It seems like newer games are taking full advantage of Sli. Even benches such as Heaven doubles my fps.

4xMSAA, 16xAF, HBAO, 1080p etc.. 85 fps average in Sli.. 43-45 with one..

60fps is good in my opinion. I don't consider anything below 60 good even if its playable.

If i get 43-45 fps average with one card, then 5850 will probably get something like 30 fps in DX11 and 55-60 in DX10. So it does a good job in DX10, but not in DX11.. Thats why i'm asking. Is it really worth buying that only for the DX11?
 
Ryeong said:
Still, the difference is very small. 2 -10 fps.. That's really not worth the extra 100 buck. On the other side, you'll get DX11.. But, the card wont do any good with tesselation. Try run the card with tesselation in heaven.. I'm just saying that it won't handle upcoming DX11 titles with tesselation good.. You know that.



It won't handle BC2 in 1920x1080 in DX11.. In DX 10 it will struggle, and you'll need to lower either resolution or settings. I'm sorry, but that's a fact.. If this card only performs 3 - 10 fps better than 275 then i can with my own experiences tell you that it wont do any good...

I almost double my fps in this game when i activate my second card. It seems like newer games are taking full advantage of Sli. Even benches such as Heaven doubles my fps.

4xMSAA, 16xAF, HBAO, 1080p etc.. 85 fps average in Sli.. 43-45 with one..

60fps is good in my opinion. I don't consider anything below 60 good even if its playable.

If i get 43-45 fps average with one card, then 5850 will probably get something like 30 fps in DX11 and 55-60 in DX10. So it does a good job in DX10, but not in DX11.. Thats why i'm asking. Is it really worth buying that only for the DX11?
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take a look at some of those games, good example is street fighter IV, nearly 100% gain over the GTX275. Futher, Left 4 Dead is also almost 75% gain, Enemy Territory quake wars is nearly 100% gain, CoH is 20fps, etc
 
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