New Built- Parts Help

Ankur

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Okay my friend wants to build a PC at home, I will be helping him, as it is his first built.
Will use it for Heavy Gaming.
Budget 900 USD to 1100 USD.
Would be good if comes under 900.
1. CPU
Intel i7-950, 4 Cores, 3.06GHz to 3.33GHz.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211
294.99 $
or please suggest an AMD processor if you think it is cheaper and better.

2. Mobo
ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131665
199.99$
is it compatible?
What about Intel, Gigabyte?
Please suggest which ever is better.

3. Memory
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMP8GX3M4A1600C8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145314
$209.99
Is it compatible?
What about G. Skill and Kingston?

3. Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148395
$49.99
Is it compatible?
What about Samsung or others?

4. GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121390
$169.99
ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/768MD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Why can't I get GeForce directly manufactured by Nvidia?
How about Radeon? is there a cheaper one?

5. HSU? Fans? monitor?case?
He will be using his old fans, case, monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers (All 5 year old), will they be compatible? Please tell me if you need more details about them.

6. Microsoft Windows 7 Home premium
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116716
$176.99

7. PSU
Will the old PSU handle the new parts? Please suggest me PSU, till then I will get details of the old one.

The total cost goes upto 1102 USD, please suggest me better or cheaper parts to get the cost a bit down (atleast 50 to 100 $).:)
 
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I doubt the old PSU would be up to par...coming from a 5-year-old system, it'd be better just to replace everything in the tower and use the old system for something semi-useful.

For gaming on that budget, right now, I'd go for this:

Mobo + OS- Gigabyte 890GX + Win7 HP X64 $210
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.552650

CPU + eSATA- Phenom II x4 955- $137 (bracket lowers total cost by $8.50, lol)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.412235

RAM- 2x2GB G.Skill Ripjaws 1600 (CAS8)- $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231278

GPU- Radeon HD6950- $308 ($20 MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125356

PSU + DVD- Corsair AX750 + Asus DRW-24B1ST- $167 ($10 MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.569077

Case- CM HAF 912- $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

HDD- Spinpoint F3 1TB- $60
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php...-F3-HD103SJ-1TB-SATA2-7200rpm-32MB-Hard-Drive

Total cost- $1007 shipped, before rebates

Optional GPU upgrade, $70 extra and no MIR- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125355

That should be a fairly balanced system, and will be much better at gaming than the i7 rig due to the GPU. It's also capable of upgrading to a 6-core processor, and adding a second GPU for crossfire.

I may be able to get it closer to $900 if some quality is dropped on the PSU, case, and RAM, but I think the extra is worth it...particularly with the PSU. The AX750 is an awesome unit, and few PSU's have a 7-year warranty.
 
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Hey sorry for not mentioning this above, but I won't be buying from newegg, as it does not ship outside U.S. I just used newegg links as it provides good details of parts specs and probable price, so I won't be having any combo deals on parts and no discount. I will be buying those parts directly from the manufacturer using some help from its local dealer.
I like the AMD processor you mentioned, but can you suggest a different GPU(to lower down the total cost).
What PSU do you recommend or suggest for the i7 rig?
 
Ah, alright

If the price still needs to go down on the GPU, a Geforce GTX 460 or Radeon HD 6850/6870 would be ok. I'd recommend the Radeon for an AMD build since you can't SLI, but either would be fine on an i7 rig.

As for the power supply, I don't know what's available over there, but here are some high-quality lines to look for:

Antec-
Truepower New
Signature
Truepower Quattro (kind of outdated...still good though)
CP850/CP1000 (only compatible with their 1200, DF-85, P183, and P193 cases)

Corsair-
HX
AX

Seasonic-
X (as in X-850, etc)
M12D
S12II/M12II
SS (higher wattage ones are OEM M12D units)

XFX-
Black Edition
XXX edition
Pro Series/Core Edition

PC Power & Cooling
Silencer (not to be confused with Silencer MK II...avoid those)
Turbocool

Enermax-
Galaxy Evo
Revolution 85+

Other assorted brands-
Thermaltake Toughpower
NZXT Hale90
Kingwin Lazer Gold
Superflower Golden Green
Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold
Sparkle Computer Corp Gold Class
Silverstone Strider Plus
Cougar SX (the 80+ Silver ones)

There are others, but that covers most of it I think...all of the common units and some not-so-common ones.
 
Okay my friend wants to build a PC at home, I will be helping him, as it is his first built.
Will use it for Heavy Gaming.
Budget 900 USD to 1100 USD.
Would be good if comes under 900.
1. CPU
Intel i7-950, 4 Cores, 3.06GHz to 3.33GHz.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211
294.99 $
or please suggest an AMD processor if you think it is cheaper and better.

2. Mobo
ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131665
199.99$
is it compatible?
What about Intel, Gigabyte?
Please suggest which ever is better.

3. Memory
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMP8GX3M4A1600C8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145314
$209.99
Is it compatible?
What about G. Skill and Kingston?

3. Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148395
$49.99
Is it compatible?
What about Samsung or others?

4. GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121390
$169.99
ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/768MD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Why can't I get GeForce directly manufactured by Nvidia?
How about Radeon? is there a cheaper one?

5. HSU? Fans? monitor?case?
He will be using his old fans, case, monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers (All 5 year old), will they be compatible? Please tell me if you need more details about them.

6. Microsoft Windows 7 Home premium
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116716
$176.99

7. PSU
Will the old PSU handle the new parts? Please suggest me PSU, till then I will get details of the old one.

The total cost goes upto 1102 USD, please suggest me better or cheaper parts to get the cost a bit down (atleast 50 to 100 $).:)

I'm pretty sure that the memory will not be compatible, the Sabertooth is 3-channel
 
excellent choice. Yes the monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers will work, but it would be more worth it with a new monitor, especially if yours isn't HD. also if the PSU is five years old it may not be powerful enough so make sure to see what watts all your stuff requires.
 
I cancelled all my plans for the parts, I am waiting for sandy bridge to come out.

excellent choice. Yes the monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers will work, but it would be more worth it with a new monitor, especially if yours isn't HD. also if the PSU is five years old it may not be powerful enough so make sure to see what watts all your stuff requires.
How do I determine which PSU is good for the system? and will the old monitor handle the display? Its also 6 years old its an LG 700E monitor.
n_700e_350x263.jpg


What about the keyboard, mouse, speakers? They are 6 years old too :(
But work very good. Speaker is artis and keyboard-mouse logitech.


I'm pretty sure that the memory will not be compatible, the Sabertooth is 3-channel
Hmm, but the number of slots mentioned in the mobo specs are 6.
 
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^ yeah, two sets of tri-channel memory. Most people with X58 rigs like to run tri-channel for the extra bandwidth, but it WILL work with only dual channel. Considering the price difference, though, I'd go ahead and grab a 3x2GB or 2x4GB kit. That dominator kit is way too expensive anyway...

These would be decent picks:

12GB DDR31600-
[email protected] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233146
[email protected] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231406
[email protected] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220542

6GB DDR31600-
[email protected] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225
[email protected] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231304
[email protected] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231335 (this stuff is awesome)


Maximum resolution on that monitor is 1280x1024. For video/image editing, you're going to want something better. Here's a decent 1080p one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052


A good power supply typically would be about 150% of your system's maximum power draw, to allow for an upgrades, overclocking, capacitor aging, etc. In your case, I'd grab something in the 650-700W range, to allow for anything you may want to do in the future.


edit: By the way, apart from a few somewhat rare Nvidia ones, you don't buy Nvidia or ATI(now AMD) branded cards...that's not how it works. AMD/Nvidia manufacture the chip itself, and other companies (the ones with their brand on the card) complete the process. And actually, they don't even directly manufacture the chips...they just design them and pay companies like Global Foundries or TSMC to make them.
 
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I'd wait 2 more weeks (11 days) until the Sandy Bridge platform is released, as prices on current line ups will drop and you will either get current listed parts cheaper or be able to afford a Sandy Bridge based build.
 
^ yeah, two sets of tri-channel memory. Most people with X58 rigs like to run tri-channel for the extra bandwidth, but it WILL work with only dual channel. Considering the price difference, though, I'd go ahead and grab a 3x2GB or 2x4GB kit. That dominator kit is way too expensive anyway...

These would be decent picks:

12GB DDR31600-
[email protected] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233146
[email protected] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231406
[email protected] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220542

6GB DDR31600-
[email protected] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225
[email protected] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231304
[email protected] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231335 (this stuff is awesome)


Maximum resolution on that monitor is 1280x1024. For video/image editing, you're going to want something better. Here's a decent 1080p one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052


A good power supply typically would be about 150% of your system's maximum power draw, to allow for an upgrades, overclocking, capacitor aging, etc. In your case, I'd grab something in the 650-700W range, to allow for anything you may want to do in the future.


edit: By the way, apart from a few somewhat rare Nvidia ones, you don't buy Nvidia or ATI(now AMD) branded cards...that's not how it works. AMD/Nvidia manufacture the chip itself, and other companies (the ones with their brand on the card) complete the process. And actually, they don't even directly manufacture the chips...they just design them and pay companies like Global Foundries or TSMC to make them.
Thank you for the information, but what about the keyboard and mouse? Will they be compatible?
I'd wait 2 more weeks (11 days) until the Sandy Bridge platform is released, as prices on current line ups will drop and you will either get current listed parts cheaper or be able to afford a Sandy Bridge based build.
Also yay! I am surely waiting for Sandy Bridge, Hopefully if the i7-2600 is cheaper than 350 then I will surely grab it, Don't know much about the motherboard.
 
Any idea whats the diff between the 2600 and the 2600K? Both have same speed and no. of cores.
 
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