AMD CPU/Socket Discussion Thread

Intel_man

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I was pretty sure most newer Intels are just 100MHz bus.

Edit: Intel uses Base Clock (BCLK) not Front Side Bus (FSB). I haven't delved in to architectures yet but I'd hazard a guess Ryzen is much more along the lines of Intel in design.
Intel use to use FSB, but it described the speed at which the CPU transferred information to the North Bridge. But then they ditched that and developed QPI and DMI.
 

Darren

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Intel use to use FSB, but it described the speed at which the CPU transferred information to the North Bridge. But then they ditched that and developed QPI and DMI.
Thanks for the correction. My last Intel CPU was a socket 478 single core Pentium 4...

Needless to say I'm not totally up to snuff on their hardware intricacies.

Owait my laptop has an i5, meh.
 

Intel_man

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Thanks for the correction. My last Intel CPU was a socket 478 single core Pentium 4...

Needless to say I'm not totally up to snuff on their hardware intricacies.

Owait my laptop has an i5, meh.
lol... no excuse! You work at a computer shop! :eek::eek:

It's ok though... QPI and DMI gets confusing because after they launched it on the X58 and designated the communication between the CPU and the chipset, or CPU to CPU (dual socket CPUs) as QPI. But then, the consumer version at the time (LGA1156 stuff) used DMI for the communication between CPU and chipset. Then it all changed when the X79 came about. It ditched? the QPI between chipset to CPU and used DMI but retained QPI for dual socket boards (QPI only for CPU to CPU comm, CPU to chipset still DMI)? Then the Z68 stuff on the consumer level also kept the DMI but introduced FDI for the integrated graphics that is now on the die. It just gets a bit more complicated after that...

Looking at their chipset block diagrams help but Intel is not great at keeping things consistent...
 

Darren

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lol... no excuse! You work at a computer shop! :eek::eek:

It's ok though... QPI and DMI gets confusing because after they launched it on the X58 and designated the communication between the CPU and the chipset, or CPU to CPU (dual socket CPUs) as QPI. But then, the consumer version at the time (LGA1156 stuff) used DMI for the communication between CPU and chipset. Then it all changed when the X79 came about. It ditched? the QPI between chipset to CPU and used DMI but retained QPI for dual socket boards (QPI only for CPU to CPU comm, CPU to chipset still DMI)? Then the Z68 stuff on the consumer level also kept the DMI but introduced FDI for the integrated graphics that is now on the die. It just gets a bit more complicated after that...

Looking at their chipset block diagrams help but Intel is not great at keeping things consistent...
I've never really delved too deeply into the actual chip architectures, for AMD or Intel really. My brief foray into Computer Engineering told me that that side of computing wasn't my forte.

And yeah given my profession I should know this but my shop also specializes in refurbished stuff so I'm still explaining to customers why a 1st gen i3 is faster than Core2Duo... Not the intricacies of architectures. :D
 

Intel_man

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Heh... Core 2 Duo was the bomb way back when. If you were rocking a E8400 at the time, you were ballin.

Computer Engineering isn't my thing too, but I just like to absorb information.
 

Intel_man

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I can't decide which one to get but if the Corsshair VI has RGB LEDs I will get it.
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Intel_man

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So no one takes me seriously because I want to have a color scheme in my computer? A lot of people have color schemes in their rig.
No one takes you seriously for a bunch of reasons, but I don't really want to bring it up for multiple reasons.
  1. It's been brought to your attention before and you just don't get it.
  2. Inappropriate and off topic.
But my comment on "no one takes you seriously" is due to your desire to "upgrade" from a 6700k to an AM4 platform for RGB leds? Like... it's not like you gained any respect from members here with your constant waving around of spendable cash you didn't work for. It also doesn't help with your wasteful attitude of components just so you can say you upgraded from something. None of these behaviours would sit well with average joes and there's a lot of average joes around here.

Getting back to a more related topic @Calin, answer this question I had directed to you in the previous page.
Seriously though, what do you do that requires an 8core/16thread chip? I'm having a decently tough time trying to find programs I use on a regular basis that uses all 6c/12t on my chip right now.

Your constant chit chat about wanting to go to Ryzen but with no actual legit reason to go to it makes you look stupid and wasteful.
I'm not trying to be a dick about it, but I want you to understand the concept of asking yourself "Why do I want this? Do I really need this? Do I increase my quality of living from buying this? Does this purchase really change my experience enough to warrant that cost or can I get more bang for the buck by investing in something else?"

Now let me give you some insight on the AM4 platform you're craving for. Recent leaked benchmarks of cinebench for the 1600X suggests near identical performance as the 6800k. And based on the fact that you mostly only play games, your existing 6700k will be a faster product. So why do you want to "downgrade"? Don't let your allegiance to AMD cloud your judgement and spend a pretty big chunk of money just so you can say you have an AMD product. I've seen photos you've posted here on your table and setup... and honestly, that needs way more work than your computer. Why not put money into that?


It's really not just me who has given you shit about stuff like this. I try to keep it to a minimal when it comes to topics like this about you, but man... this is not a healthy lifestyle you're indulging into.
 

Calin

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is due to your desire to "upgrade" from a 6700k to an AM4 platform for RGB leds?
I want to upgrade for the performance, not for the LEDs, I just said that I really want the Crosshair board but I won't be getting it if it doesn't have RGB LEDs because it would ruin my color scheme so I'm probably gonna get the Prime X370 Pro.
Getting back to a more related topic @Calin, answer this question I had directed to you in the previous page.
Because, like other people I'm pretty obsessed with 3DMark scores so I want my score to be as high as possible. If I wanted performance that would make me happy in terms of gaming, I would have gone with something like an i5 and a RX 480 and would have kept my 1080p TV as my main screen.
Now let me give you some insight on the AM4 platform you're craving for. Recent leaked benchmarks of cinebench for the 1600X suggests near identical performance as the 6800k. And based on the fact that you mostly only play games, your existing 6700k will be a faster product. So why do you want to "downgrade"? Don't let your allegiance to AMD cloud your judgement and spend a pretty big chunk of money just so you can say you have an AMD product
Yeah, sure, I will lose like 5 FPS in game but gain a crapton of points in 3DMark, Cinebench and other benchmarks.
I've seen photos you've posted here on your table and setup... and honestly, that needs way more work than your computer. Why not put money into that?
I will put money into that too, I want to redo my whole room.

And why do people care about the way I get my money? It's not stolen or anything...
 

Darren

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Didn't expect them to do official unveil today. Disappointed that it's only the R7 chips coming out, but I kind of expected it. You can already preorder and stuff is selling out crazy fast.

Official release.


Oh and the absolute most important part. The Wraith stock coolers have RGB, at 10:27.

 

Deadpool

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Didn't expect them to do official unveil today. Disappointed that it's only the R7 chips coming out, but I kind of expected it. You can already preorder and stuff is selling out crazy fast.

Official release.


Oh and the absolute most important part. The Wraith stock coolers have RGB, at 10:27.


Ha! That Linus kid is everywhere.

I don't really see the point of the X versions though. Why the hell would you want your CPU to OC automatically? That shit is half the fun! Unless I'm missing some info...

I'm starting to think the 1300 will be the most sold Ryzen CPU. Maybe the 1500. That one seems like a smart purchase.
 

Darren

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From my understanding the XFR can apply itself to individual cores depending on usage so single threaded applications could see boosted performance as you can overclock one core higher than doing all of them. How well that works remains to be seen, I'm not that optimistic it'll make much difference but we'll see.
 

Deadpool

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From my understanding the XFR can apply itself to individual cores depending on usage so single threaded applications could see boosted performance as you can overclock one core higher than doing all of them. How well that works remains to be seen, I'm not that optimistic it'll make much difference but we'll see.

Uuuuhhhhh. The single core thingy makes it a lot more interesting. Talk about power efficiency ey? Man this just keeps getting better...
 
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