Intel_man
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Yeah, I get that vibe too with that naming system they're going for... which is a bit childish in my view. If your stuff is competitive, you shouldn't need to stoop to that level.
AMD CPU/Socket Discussion Thread
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Not quite sure I know what you mean? What's childish about marketing the R5 to compete with the i5's? It obviously does at the price point, and price is the ultimate influence on what you buy. It just so happens that at the price point the chips are way faster on the AMD side. At least while Intel's pricing hold steady and they keep the i5 in the mid $200's range.
mistersprinkles
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Hitler reacts to AMD Ryzen after buying his new 6950X at Walmart for CASH! (He lost the receipt)
"Thank you here is my $300!"
"Are you still gaming at 800x600 you stupid moron?"
Haha that crap is hilarious!
Intel_man
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https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/03/amd-ryzen-review/
A pretty long review of the 1800X with a few benchmarks.
A pretty long review of the 1800X with a few benchmarks.
Intel_man
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More benchmarks of the 1800X.
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/102964-amd-ryzen-7-1800x-14nm-zen/?set_mobile_full_site_cookie=1
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/102964-amd-ryzen-7-1800x-14nm-zen/?set_mobile_full_site_cookie=1
Intel_man
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To be honest, I was kinda expecting that from day 1. AMD has been shying away from comparing the 6700k or the 7700k in the benchmarks which indicate that exact thing you're describing. It also further proves my point from the previous page about the hype for this chip is too damn high.
However, the chip's performance isn't bad though. It's no 7700k, but expecting it to be as good or better than that while pwning a 6900k in multi-thread performance was a bit of a stretch. It does well in integer and floating point now, but just sucks at Crypto (w/e that is).
Yeah I never expected it to fully beat Intel, just come close and compete on price. That's all I ever wanted, and it gives them a good basis to work from rather than trying to push a fundamentally shitty architecture that Bulldozer was.
mistersprinkles
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Ryzen seems to have risen only to a semi, rather than a full raging...errrmm... you know. I'm disappointed.
mistersprinkles
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Looks like Intel is still king for gaming except in a handfull of less-popular super well multithreaded titles. 
Ye... Some more benchs:
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-amd-ryzen-7-review/5/
Clearly beaten by the 7700K and 7600K on games.
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-amd-ryzen-7-review/5/
Clearly beaten by the 7700K and 7600K on games.
I'll reserve judgement until they get some optimizations moving forward. Seems to me AMD kind of expected this, in particular with games based off their reddit AMA. Most stuff isn't optimized for SMT but is for hyper threading.
I never expected them to fully beat Intel in gaming anyway, that didn't seem their intention and expect more competitiveness on the IPC front with future Zen iterations. Considering how close they are on their first 14nm process, I'm content with where they sit.
I never expected them to fully beat Intel in gaming anyway, that didn't seem their intention and expect more competitiveness on the IPC front with future Zen iterations. Considering how close they are on their first 14nm process, I'm content with where they sit.
mistersprinkles
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I was hoping they'd compete more with Intel to drive prices down
You need to brush up on your history. @beers can probably explain better than me but weren't earlier Athlons pretty darn competitive and even Phenom wasn't too far off.
I expect more price adjustment on Intel's part once the full Ryzen lineup is out.
Agreed. Even if the 1800X doesn´t beat the 6900k, performances are comparable and the price is half. It would be silly for Intel to mantain their prices. I´m still super dissapointed (with the 7 line, hopefully the others will do better in games!).