Building a computer

just tryin to stay in his price range, but ive went through 2 nec dvd burners both quit workin after usin for about 1 month, i have a samsung the one i listed and a pioneer and have had no probs, i guess its all personal exp. though
 
So I've been searching for the PSUs and I chose following two :) :

LOGISYS Computer PS575XBK ATX12V 575W Power Supply 100-120V/ 200-240V cUL, FCC, CB, CE, CSA - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817170017

or

ePOWER ZU-550W ATX12V Version 2.0 / EPS12V 550W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CE, FCC, TUV - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817101021

Can someone suggest me which one is better? :confused:
The Epower, as one would expect given that it's twice the price. Price/Performance wise, I'd still prefer the XClio I linked to earlier. More than sufficient for a 7600GS/GT, well priced, and reliable.
 
So I've been searching for the PSUs and I chose following two :) :

LOGISYS Computer PS575XBK ATX12V 575W Power Supply 100-120V/ 200-240V cUL, FCC, CB, CE, CSA - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817170017

or

ePOWER ZU-550W ATX12V Version 2.0 / EPS12V 550W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CE, FCC, TUV - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817101021

Can someone suggest me which one is better? :confused:

You may want to go back and review the two lists on power supplies posted earlier. ePower sounds like another that will make the "foobar" list there along with Logisys. When you see any supply that is 500+w for $50 or less and not on sale or discounted by rebate... oops! "Cheapie"!

In the $50-$75 price range there are only a few at newegg worth considering. One rather new Antec Basiq 500w model is seen at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817371004

Dropping down $15 in price is the Enermax Whisper II 460w model at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103464

Need a heavier supply with SLI support? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103462
 
You may want to go back and review the two lists on power supplies posted earlier. ePower sounds like another that will make the "foobar" list there along with Logisys. When you see any supply that is 500+w for $50 or less and not on sale or discounted by rebate... oops! "Cheapie"!
ePower is Topower's retail branch. They used to be very good, but the more recent units have been exhibiting poor voltage regulation. Still better than a lot of the junk out there, though.

Logisys are rebadged Youngyear. Very lowend.
 
Low end on Logisys? I call that more likely to be on the "total foobar" list. :P I've heard the ToPower name before. But they didm't make it to either list in the comparison sheet.
 
The first thing in that list I would dump right from the start is the Rosewill supply! The best 500w+ model seen for $75 or less is the Enermax model seen at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103512

Take a good look at the "good" and the "foobar" lists and understand that you will probably need to spend over that for a good make and model.
Good:
Antec(except Smart Power models) - Astec - AOpen - Channel Well - Coolermaster - Enermax(except Liberty models)
- Enlight - Fortron Source (Sparkle) - HEC - OCZ Technology - PC Power & Cooling - PowerMan
- Seasonic - SilverStone - Sunbeam - Tagan - TTGI/SuperFlower - Vantec - Zippy / Emacs - Verax - Zalman
- Corsair

Bad:
Allied - Antec Smart Power models seem to lack(recommend True Power or NeoHE) - Aspire - CoolMax - DEER - Enermax Liberty models - EYE-T
- KingStar - L&C - Linkworld - Logisys - PowerMagic - PowerUp - Powmax - Q-Tec - Raidmax - Skyhawk - Star
- Turbolink - Ultra - ThermalTake(complaints heard some good some ???) - Rosewill - SilenX ???

Lite-On is a much better make for a dvd burner like the model seen at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106013 LG and Nec also make a good list.

Due to your expertises, I finally chose these PSUs...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817182044
(I know that you told me its "bad" company, but it has good reviews and LED fan)

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817189005
(because also good reviews and 12cm fan)

and

http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__Ultr...k_Power_Supply,__11864241/search=power+supply
(looks okay...)

and possibly

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817152022
(and ok reviews and 12cm LED fan)

but don't be angry at me :( ....the choices are due to the fact that I can't spend more than $70 on PSUs....

Thanks
 
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ePower is Topower's retail branch. They used to be very good, but the more recent units have been exhibiting poor voltage regulation. Still better than a lot of the junk out there, though.

Logisys are rebadged Youngyear. Very lowend.

I have had pretty good luck with ePowers, as far as I know they made a few P/S for Targan and a few others. There Zumax supplies are suppost to be pretty good!
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817182044
(I know that you told me its "bad" company, but it has good reviews and LED fan)
Solytech OEM - Basically highend Deer. I'd avoid.

A very solid unit, one of the best for its price.

Ultra is discontinuing the X-Finity lineup. As a result, these units can often be found at great prices. Definitely solid units with a flashy exterior, if that's what you're after.

Retail Raidmax's are a lot better than the OEM units that often give them a bad name. Even so, I'd pass. There's better for the money.

but don't be angry at me :( ....the choices are due to the fact that I can't spend more than $70 on PSUs....
I'd be spending my $70 on an Enhance ENP-5150GH. A rock solid, high efficiency unit.

I have had pretty good luck with ePowers,
Older or newer?

as far as I know they made a few P/S for Targan and a few others. There Zumax supplies are suppost to be pretty good!
Topower makes all Tagan units as well as some units for a host of other companies, including BFG, Mushkin, Hipro, older OCZ, Spire, Vantec, Scythe and others. The voltage regulation problem has been a commonality between all of their newer midrange units.
 
Nothing like working overtime on psu comparison revsions. :P Please note the updated "good" and "ffooooo bar" lists.

Good:
Antec(except Smart Power models) - Astec - AOpen - Channel Well - Coolermaster - Enermax(except Liberty models)
- Enlight - Fortron Source (Sparkle) - HEC - OCZ Technology - PC Power & Cooling - PowerMan
- Seasonic - SilverStone - Sunbeam - Tagan(older models) - TTGI/SuperFlower - Vantec - Zippy / Emacs - Verax - XCLIO - Zalman
- Corsair

Bad:
Allied - Antec Smart Power models seem to lack(recommend True Power or NeoHE) - Aspire - CoolMax - DEER - Enermax Liberty models - ePower - EYE-T
- KingStar - L&C - Linkworld - Logisys - PowerMagic - PowerUp - Powmax - Q-Tec - Raidmax - Skyhawk - Star
- Turbolink - Ultra - ThermalTake(complaints heard some good some ???) - Rosewill - SilenX ??? ToPower(newer models)
 
Topower makes all Tagan units as well as some units for a host of other companies, including BFG, Mushkin, Hipro, older OCZ, Spire, Vantec, Scythe and others. The voltage regulation problem has been a commonality between all of their newer midrange units.

Didnt know that ToPower made Mushkin and Hipro too, Ive installed a few Mushkins seemed like pretty good suppiles. As fas as ePower, its been about 3 months since I install one. I guess I have installed about 12 of them and none DOA and only one has come back, pretty good streak;) Got a deal on some Antecs about 2 week ago, bought 15 EA 500 for 49.99 each, there only 17A on the 1&2 12V and alittle low on the 5.5 but I think they retail 85 to 90 bucks. Used 3 so far and all good, I would not use them for a big SLI and X harddrives setup but they seem to do pretty good with a general setup. Im running a Enermax Noisetaker 600w in mine right now, had so many case fans was tring to find alittle less noisier P/S. Kinda freaked me out about 3 days after I had it, I went to boot up and (nothing):mad: ! unpluged it hit the power button a few times, plugged it back up and its been fine ever since;)
 
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Nothing like working overtime on psu comparison revsions. :P Please note the updated "good" and "ffooooo bar" lists.

Good:
Antec(except Smart Power models) - Astec - AOpen - Channel Well - Coolermaster - Enermax(except Liberty models)
- Enlight - Fortron Source (Sparkle) - HEC - OCZ Technology - PC Power & Cooling - PowerMan
- Seasonic - SilverStone - Sunbeam - Tagan(older models) - TTGI/SuperFlower - Vantec - Zippy / Emacs - Verax - XCLIO - Zalman
- Corsair

Bad:
Allied - Antec Smart Power models seem to lack(recommend True Power or NeoHE) - Aspire - CoolMax - DEER - Enermax Liberty models - ePower - EYE-T
- KingStar - L&C - Linkworld - Logisys - PowerMagic - PowerUp - Powmax - Q-Tec - Raidmax - Skyhawk - Star
- Turbolink - Ultra - ThermalTake(complaints heard some good some ???) - Rosewill - SilenX ??? ToPower(newer models)

Think you need to add a middle ground to your list instead of just Good or Bad! I,ve used quite a few ePower and they have been good P/S. I use a CoolerMaster CPU cooler but I would not waste my energy to throw there P/S across my back yard! As far as P/S CoolerMaster is no better than Coolmax
 
Think you need to add a middle ground to your list instead of just Good or Bad! I,ve used quite a few ePower and they have been good P/S. I use a CoolerMaster CPU cooler but I would not waste my energy to throw there P/S across my back yard! As far as P/S CoolerMaster is no better than Coolmax

Middle ground? If you will note some makes see models in both lists. The one that fits onto the "good" list as well as being a good work horse supply here can be seen at http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=22480 That includes running three hard drives along with two burners, video capturing/editing, multimedia, and even gaming including an occasional oc. :D
 
Didnt know that ToPower made Mushkin and Hipro too, Ive installed a few Mushkins seemed like pretty good suppiles.
Not all Hipro. Anything Hipro with a TOP prefix in the name is Topower. As for Mushkins, the highend units are based on a different platform, the midrange units don't do so well: http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=31

As fas as ePower its been about 3 months since I install one. I guess I have installed about 12 of them and none DOA and only one has come back, pretty good streak;)
Yeah, they don't fail to often at least. To give you an idea of what I mean, take a look at this review of a BFG 650W. It's got the same guts as the ePower 650W.

Got a deal on some Antecs about 2 week ago, bought 15 EA 500 for 49.99 each, there only 17A on the 1&2 12V and alittle low on the 5.5 but I think they retail 85 to 90 bucks. Used 3 so far and all good, I would not use them for a big SLI and X harddrives setup but they seem to do pretty good with a general setup.
Nice find. There's no OCP on either rail, so you shouldn't run into any power distribution problems. It's essentially a single rail unit, as is pretty much anything built by Seasonic. I wouldn't worry so much about the 5V rail either. Given how little it's being used these days, I can't see it being the limiting factor unless you're using it on an old Socket A system, or one with a whole lot of hard drives.

I use a CoolerMaster CPU cooler but I would not waste my energy to throw there P/S across my back yard! As far as P/S CoolerMaster is no better than Coolmax
Coolermaster are one of those companies whose PSUs are made by a whole host of different manufacturers. The Extreme Power 430W units are Hipro built, not too bad for the money. The lower end Real Powers are Acbel and don't perform too badly. The Extrem Power 600W is a rebadged Seventeam 500W unit. Solid up to 500W, but that's all. The newer Real Powers of 850W and above are Enhance built, and perform very well. Which units have you had trouble with?

Think you need to add a middle ground to your list instead of just Good or Bad!
I tried to do something like that a while back, and it became unmanageable. I still intend to make something a little more comprehensive, but don't have the time at the moment. Perhaps leave anything 'middle ground' off and restrict it to known good and known bad (and even when doing so it's not really fair to bundle some of those Antecs, Enermaxes, Ultras, Thermaltakes, SilenX, Topower, etc... with the likes of Powmax, Deer, L&C, etc.... There are very significant quality differences there).

Even so, a lot of manufacturers produce units of vastly different qualities. Despite the problems with the X-Connect, Ultras newer X-Pros, for example, are very, very good PSUs. Many Thermaltakes are highend Channelwell (you've got Channelwell in good and Thermaltake in Bad). Heck, even the top end Coolmax Greenpowers are efficient, server grade units despite the reputation Coolmax has for its lower end units.
 
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Whats that got to do with anything?

It goes to show that wattage and amps aren't always the thing to consider. As ceewi1 has mentioned here it depends on who is actually making what. As you will note the comparison lists are not intended as "exact science" but a reference only. Some people grab a "low ender" that works out better then a name brand with a good rep for some reason. "application" is the real name of the game there.
 
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