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Too bad everyone who'se brought that up so far hasnt the foggiest that those arent gaming cards but workstation cards, readup: http://www.computerforum.com/showthread.php?t=3451
1. Cant you just admit you're wrong and didnt know the first thing about workstation cards?
2. Who said anything about a monitor? Note that modern games, requiring shaders and such REQUIRE a video card .... older games that dont have such hardware requirement do NOT require a video card .... and without the videocard ... no monitor
3. Even if i stoop that level of stupidity, no the video card would NOT be required for gaming (for these CPU rendered games) -- it would be required for DISPLAYING VIDEO
What have we learned since post #7? You havnt the foggiest. I dont mean to be mean man (and i really dont, you just make it so damn hard not to
) but man c'mon....OK, I'm wrongPraetor said:
Kinda hard to game without a monitor.....Praetor said:
Ya, and you need to see to play games.Praetor said:
Nothing. I still don't understand most of this, because you can run games w/out a monitor, but you can't play them. And, for a monitor, you need to have gfx, whether or not it uses it. I'm not really trying to argue with you, I know that the chances are nil that I am right, I am just saying how I understand this.Praetor said:
Ya, that's rightPraetor said:
Don't feel bad about pickin on a little kid, I argue with everybody, quite literally tooPraetor said:I dont mean to be mean man (and i really dont, you just make it so d*** hard not to
Irrelevent. Notice the words used with my original post (#7). You seem to have not read my point that these arent gaming cards -- whether you can game with them or not is inconsequential. Furthermore, post #11 you state that there are some games that dont required Directx .... so what? Please dont suggest to me that if the game doesnt require directx than than workstation cards are suitable. Further along in post #13 you suggest that, (in reference to post #12), for CPU rendered games youd be using a workstation card for gaming .... lets have a technical analysis of that:
- What can a video card do? It can do 2D transforms, 3D transforms, provide specific shader accelerators and eventually punch out some signal somewhere
- What does a gaming card do? Everything a generic video card does ... just faster.
- What does a workstation card do? shitloads of precise pixel operations and punch stuff out to a display of some sort
That being settled:
- What does a game require in respect to graphics: some 2d operations and potentially 3d and shader operations are performed
- Gaming cards satisfy this requirement
- Workstations dont. Thats why they are workstation cards.
If you were a bit more receptive and bit less argumentative you'd have seen this in the way I use specific words.
No you dont. And there are TONS of counterexamples ... like say UT2004 .... and please *do* think (long and hard if neccessary) before you challenge me on that....its not often I make wild statements without a pocket howitzer to back it up
Uhhh ..... read post #7 again. If you're gonna be stupid enough to give me that "you need to see to play and therefore the card is required" than welcome to the new world: the video card isnt required .... ever heard of terminals?
And here you are contradicting yourself because in post #13 you said
And nowhere does it say PLAY.
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Yeaaahhhh, I think
I don't really understant (I understand the difference between wkstatoion and gaming) but I'm just going to shut up now, so don't bother wasting any more key strokes trying to explain it to me. I know what you are trying to say, and I understand enough to know that I should shut up now
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well they do indeed say that the ultra setting in Doom 3 is intented for 512mb cards that dont excist just yet in the everyday gamer variety Although the statement that you need such a card to run in ultra settings on Doom 3 is actualy a false one. You can with the right rig run in ultra settings with a 128meg videocard. This will be slower of course and very much pointless. Also yes the game does warn you before the settings are applied but lets you apply the settings anyway.
well they do indeed say that the ultra setting in Doom 3 is intented for 512mb cards that dont excist just yet in the everyday gamer variety Although the statement that you need such a card to run in ultra settings on Doom 3 is actualy a false one. You can with the right rig run in ultra settings with a 128meg videocard. This will be slower of course and very much pointless. Also yes the game does warn you before the settings are applied but lets you apply the settings anyway.