9600gt vs 8800gt vs HD 4850

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87dtna

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Not really. Most 4770's require atleast a 450w power supply. Only a 9600gt would get away with a 350w PSU. I've used the 9600gt I have on a 300w PSU, it doesn't even require a 6 pin connector. This is the one I have-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127434&cm_re=9600gt-_-14-127-434-_-Product

It's my ''backup'' card, it's pretty good though. Easily plays Call of Duty World at War at 1280x1024 resolution, I even played it fine with 1600x1200 with no lag on my old CRT monitor. I have not tried that card since I got my LCD and went full 1920X1080.

I would honestly choose a 9600gt over a 4770.


For what you want, a 9800gtx or gts250 would really suit your needs. There's a guy in the for sale section right now that has a 9800gtx on here for sale. But, you will need a better power supply with really any decent card. Atleast 500w.
 
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Aastii

Aastii

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mx344 said:
wowowo, WAHT!! 650 watt earthwatt, totally unessary.

He'll make it un a 400-500 watt antec.

Good psu, not to much either.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371023
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with no future upgradability. It is not the wattage you look at, it is the amps on the 12V rails, and I agree with the first recomendation
87dtna said:
The only card you wouldn't need a different PSU that would play games half decently would be the 9600gt.
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the 9600gt actually pulls roughly the same/more than a 4850.

None of the cards discussed though will run on your system, as I said, 24 amps would be the absolute dead end lowest amps you would be able to handle, and as your PSU has less than that, they won't run.

Now, back to the first quote, if you look at the 2 power supplies posted, the first has combined 69 amps, compared to the 33A on the second one posted (the one quoted), that will only just run the current set up, so when the next upgrade comes, yet another power supply will have to be bought.

It probably isn't what you want to hear, but without that power supply being upgraded, you aren't going to be able to upgrade anything else, so that takes priority
 
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87dtna

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gimmigzgy said:
9600 over the 4770?

4770 is GDDR5, it transmits memory more faster
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More faster? lol :good:


And, obviously not. The 9600gt has more memory bandwidth (faster gb/s) than the 4770. The 4770 is 51gb/s and the 9600gt is 57gb/s.

This is because even though the 4770 has GDDR5 it only has a 128 bit Bus width. The 9600gt has a 256 bus width with GDDR3, which apparently edges out GDDR5 with a 128 bus.
 
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87dtna

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Aastii said:
the 9600gt actually pulls roughly the same/more than a 4850.

None of the cards discussed though will run on your system, as I said, 24 amps would be the absolute dead end lowest amps you would be able to handle, and as your PSU has less than that, they won't run.
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Ehh, not sure about that one. But the 9600gt is a very underrated GPU. The 9600gt I have scores higher than my old 8800gts. Actually, quite a bit higher. 8800gts was 10,000 on 3dmark06 and the 9600gt was 12,000.


But, as far as what you said about the PSU, I have personally run my 9600gt on a 300w super cheap power supply (came with a case I bought).
 
Aastii

Aastii

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87dtna said:
Ehh, not sure about that one. But the 9600gt is a very underrated GPU. The 9600gt I have scores higher than my old 8800gts. Actually, quite a bit higher. 8800gts was 10,000 on 3dmark06 and the 9600gt was 12,000.


But, as far as what you said about the PSU, I have personally run my 9600gt on a 300w super cheap power supply (came with a case I bought).
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the recomended for a 9600GSO is 26A, so drop that by a 3 or 4 amps because it is gt, not gso, and you are still looking at over what he has.

As for your PSU, good luck if you ever try doing any kind of gaming for a long period of time, I wouldn't trust it too much, I know for a fact I wouldn't let one of those things get in my house, let alone my computer, I like money kept in my pocket, not squandered on a new system because my PSU has taken out components when it blew because I put too much strain on cheap chinese parts
 
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87dtna

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Aastii said:
the recomended for a 9600GSO is 26A, so drop that by a 3 or 4 amps because it is gt, not gso, and you are still looking at over what he has.

As for your PSU, good luck if you ever try doing any kind of gaming for a long period of time, I wouldn't trust it too much, I know for a fact I wouldn't let one of those things get in my house, let alone my computer, I like money kept in my pocket, not squandered on a new system because my PSU has taken out components when it blew because I put too much strain on cheap chinese parts
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Yes but the 9600gso is 90w TDP, a 9600gt is 59w. I looked around, seems there's two versions of the 9600gt. I guess the older 65nm one is 90w TDP, and requires and extra 6 pin plug. If you get a 9600gt that doesn't require a 6 pin plug, than you got a 55nm card with 59w TDP. I did find one card in the specs that didn't have the plug, it said minimum 350w PSU with 18a on the 12v rail. So, he's at the bare minimum, which is never recommended of course.

Don't worry I agree, I don't think the correct route on a long term basis is to keep his current PSU and just get a card that will work with it....he should get a PSU first and get a card that works with that! I'm sure you agree.

He should get atleast a 500w good name brand PSU (or the HEC 650w I linked too) and most likely a 9800gtx or similar card.
 
gimmigzgy

gimmigzgy

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350watt GMC platinum power PSU,
it's AC input - 100v-120v 10A 50/60Hz -200v-240 6A 50/60hz
DC output - +3.3v +5V +12V -5V -12V +5vsb
26A 30A 22A 0.5A 2A 2A

or

it says +12v -12v +5v +3.3v +5vSB / 20A 0.5A 36A 21A 1.5A
frequency: 50-60hz

can they run a 9600gt?


Cuz I only have a budget to buy a 9600gt or a 4850
 
starlitjoker

starlitjoker

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listen when i wanted to upgrade my comp, i just built a new computer. You NEED to upgrade your PSU and i think the antec earthwatts 650 WATTs is necessary and will totally save you energy bills :D 80+ certified. i dont think its unecessary, the 4000 ATI cards are very power hungry. also above the 9600 you start sucking up WAY MORE power. You honestly need to upgrade your PSU but only if you can remove your existing one
 
starlitjoker

starlitjoker

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oh and to your above post, i dont rly know, lets get a consensus. people help him out
is his origional PSU able to run a 9600 gt?
 
gimmigzgy

gimmigzgy

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yeah,
here are my soon to be PC specs,

AMD athlon II x2 240 (2.8ghz)
MSI k9A2GM-F v2 AMD780g
Inno3d 9600gt 512mb 256bit ddr3
apacer 2gb pc800 memory

with a 500w generic PSU
which is +12v -12v +5v +3.3v +5vSB / 20A 0.5A 36A 21A 1.5A
frequency: 50-60hz
 
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87dtna

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gimmigzgy said:
yeah,
here are my soon to be PC specs,

AMD athlon II x2 240 (2.8ghz)
MSI k9A2GM-F v2 AMD780g
Inno3d 9600gt 512mb 256bit ddr3
apacer 2gb pc800 memory

with a 500w generic PSU
which is +12v -12v +5v +3.3v +5vSB / 20A 0.5A 36A 21A 1.5A
frequency: 50-60hz
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Have you purchased that GPU yet? If not I highly suggest the MSI 9600gt I linked too earlier. The one you listed requires a 6 pin PCIe connector, the MSI doesn't require any. That means that this 9600gt uses 90 watts, the MSI uses 59 watts. I still think you will be fine though, your athlon 240 barely uses any power and you aren't even overclocking so the power supply is not stressed at all and can focus all it's juice toward the card.
 
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87dtna

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Green edition? Yeah it's called 55nm instead of 65nm LOL. The MSI is 55nm, so it only draws 59w instead of 90w.
 
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