advice on new compy

[diroga]

this computer is for the family. no hard core gaming or graphics rendering, mostly internet and word processing.

mobo
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-185-010&depa=1

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=20-223-002&DEPA=0

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-104-160&depa=1

do all the parts agree wiht each other? what type of heat sink/fan do i need for the cpu? i went with AMD because it is cheaper than intel chips. what type of power will i need to run that plus 1 dvd/cd drive hdd and a floppy? 350W?

 

[mgoldb2]

What Is your budget?

Becasue for a little extra money you could go with a socket 754 sempron 2600+ which would give you much better performance. I would conisder getting 512 ram because windows xp can quickly use up 256 ram.

I can give better recomendations once I know your budget.

 

[atomic]

you can get a socket A Sempron 2600+

 

[Praetor]

you can get a socket A Sempron 2600+

Yes but if you can get a S754 chip compared to S462 then theres no reason for the S462

 

[diroga]

i'm going to be using win2kpro. A 754 sempron 2600+ is 1.6ghz but the cpu i pick was 1.8ghz. will the sempron run fastere because of the larger cache?

 

[mgoldb2]

i'm going to be using win2kpro. A 754 sempron 2600+ is 1.6ghz but the cpu i pick was 1.8ghz. will the sempron run fastere because of the larger cache?

It will run faster but not because of the cache. first of all the 200HTT is better then the 133fsb. The socket 754 chips has a on-die memory controller that gives it a advantage. To put plainly the socket 754 chips is just a better arctecture then the socket A chips.

Anouther reason is it appears that amd is moving away from socket A and trying to replace it with socket 754 being there budget version. I am not certain but I believe that only the socket A semprons are not discontinue from the socket A line.

Again it would be helpful if you said a budget for this computer.

 

[diroga]

below $200 would be nice. i already have the video card and drives. so a 1.6 is faster than a 1.8. how noticable is the differenece? the computer doesnt have to be that great.

 

[mgoldb2]

below $200 would be nice. i already have the video card and drives. so a 1.6 is faster than a 1.8. how noticable is the differenece? the computer doesnt have to be that great.

I personally never uses a sempron yet but I would think the difference should be notiable between a socket A and socket 754 cpu. There should especially be a notable difference between a duaron and a sempron.

if you have $200 for motherboard, cpu, ram then I would do something like the following.

cpu sempron 2600+ skt 754 $79
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-104-226&depa=1
motherboard GIGABYTE "GA-K8NS" $73
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-128-259&depa=1
Ram 512mb pc3200 $45
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-150-619&depa=1

Total: $197

If this to much money then I guess you could go down to a socket A board. I still think you should get something better then a duron that is a really old cpu.

 

[diroga]

so for $100 more i could get better preformance? again this computer doesnt have to amzing or anything. it has to be better than a P3 666Mz/133 computer. the computer is for my non computer inclinde parents so with a better system would it be more reliable?

 

[691175002]

so for $100 more i could get better preformance?

For more you can almost always get more performence

 

[mgoldb2]

so for $100 more i could get better preformance? again this computer doesnt have to amzing or anything. it has to be better than a P3 666Mz/133 computer. the computer is for my non computer inclinde parents so with a better system would it be more reliable?

reliable might not be the word I use because reliabilty have alot to do with the software installed. You would definally see better performance for the $100. The nice thing about what I recommend is that it should do all basic tasks like office quickly. The cpu I chose will handle all basic tasks quickly. I chose 512 ram instead of 256 because at least I try to avoid having the dreaded windows need to increase virtural memory message and then the whole computer starts going at a snail pace.

 

[diroga]

the ram is a good price for the amount. i will be using windows 2000 pro, so the memory demand is not that high. the mobo is ATA 133 but will it work with my old ATA 66 HD? also i have an AGP 2x video card will that work on that mobo?

 

[mgoldb2]

the ram is a good price for the amount. i will be using windows 2000 pro, so the memory demand is not that high. the mobo is ATA 133 but will it work with my old ATA 66 HD? also i have an AGP 2x video card will that work on that mobo?

The harddrive should work without a problem.

The video card not going to work but I doubt you can find any new mobo that still uses agp 2X. A 8x agp slot will work with 4x and 8x video cards.

 

[mgoldb2]

Since you computer will be doing no gaming. I guess you dont need a great motherboard espcially since you proberly not planning on OC at all. So a option is instead of picking the motherboard I chose instead go with a gigabyte via k8m800 board that has intergrated graphic. This will fix your problem with not having a graphic card that works on new motherboads. This board only cost $68. The chipset not the best but quility wise gigibyte products are usually reliable.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-128-262&depa=1

This is only a good option if no gaming will be played.

 

[diroga]

are you sure i cant step down the bus or something for the AGP? it wont automaticaly do it or anything?

 

[mgoldb2]

are you sure i cant step down the bus or something for the AGP? it wont automaticaly do it or anything?

I pretty sure it uses a different voltage that cant be changed

 

[diroga]

ok then intergrated video it is. is there a way i can find out how good the intgrated video is on that mobo? it doesnt give its specs.

 

[mgoldb2]

This what I could find on it

Integrated UniChrome™ Pro IGP
- Dual pixel pipelines
- 128-bit 2D/3D engine
- 200MHz engine clock speed
- up to 64MB shared memory

MPEG-2 hardware acceleration

Not great but I doubt what ever card you had that agp 2x is that great either. Should work fine as long as you dont plan on playing any new video games.

 

[diroga]

it sounds better that my geforce 256. the games that would be played are counter strike other games made before 2000. starcraft and the like.

 

[Kristjan]

for editing documents and for such things i'd suggest an emac (www.apple.com). just an different point of view.