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Matt234123

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Hey guys,

So a friend of mine asked me to build a PC for him. He wants a PC where he can do all his work on. He doesn't have an budget but he doesn't want to spend like 2000 dollars either. He does a lot of coding and writing websites, but what he really wants is a computer that works fast. And will still be perfect to work on for at least 4-5 years.

So this is what i was thinking of.

i7 2600k
8gb of ram
650watt psu
solid state start up drive


But for the rest of the hardware im not so sure. I thought maybe a dedicated graphics card. I'm not really sure. Im so used to putting in a really good graphics card but i doubt hes going to need any of that. I also thought maybe a solid state drive for the fast boot up speed. He doenst need a big harddrive because he has one of those 5TB enclosures of hard drives. For motherboard he doenst need anything that supports quad SLI or anything like that. Just one that has maybe build in sound and maybe (depends on above question) a build in graphics card.

Thanks in advance guys.


He doesn't need: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor.
 
If no gpu then 650w overkill.
Be good to have an internal hdd as an extention of c:, so to speak, to put other non-ssd programs and folders that store from the os and other programs that may go to the ssd that will also store data.
 
Remember to buy H67 motherboard if you want to use integrated graphics. i7 2600K & 2500K have better integrated graphics than non-k models. However, H67 motherboard doesn't support CPU overclocking.
 
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Matt234123 said:
Hey guys,

So a friend of mine asked me to build a PC for him. He wants a PC where he can do all his work on. He doesn't have an budget but he doesn't want to spend like 2000 dollars either. He does a lot of coding and writing websites, but what he really wants is a computer that works fast. And will still be perfect to work on for at least 4-5 years.

So this is what i was thinking of.

i7 2600k
8gb of ram
650watt psu
solid state start up drive


But for the rest of the hardware im not so sure. I thought maybe a dedicated graphics card. I'm not really sure. Im so used to putting in a really good graphics card but i doubt hes going to need any of that. I also thought maybe a solid state drive for the fast boot up speed. He doenst need a big harddrive because he has one of those 5TB enclosures of hard drives. For motherboard he doenst need anything that supports quad SLI or anything like that. Just one that has maybe build in sound and maybe (depends on above question) a build in graphics card.

Thanks in advance guys.


He doesn't need: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor.
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Just to make sure you know this, an SSD will not help out boot times that much. You would think it would but it doesn't. I just bought an SSD thinking the same thing. If anything, since AHCI is enabled I think it takes longer, have not timed it after installing the SSD. SSD make a big difference once it starts loading Windows. You can start running programs almost instantly.

For the GPU, he does not need a power house since he is not gaming. But I would definitely consider a dedicated GPU. What size monitor does he have?
 
If he needs the computer for coding then he does NOT need so strong computer at all,especially not with 8 GB of RAM lol.
Coding by itself does not require the strong system unless the code he writes is so messed up and so ****ed up then it is normal that the programs or WEB sites will work like crap and slow,but that is his fault and not the computer's hardware fault.

If you ask me,all he needs is the following:

-motherboard with built in audio or non-built in audio (so just plug the audio chip in the motherboard slot).The motherboard can even be 20 years old.trust me it's enough for the programming...
-512 MB of RAM or maybe 1 GB of RAM...
-1.0 ghz or maybe 1.6 ghz processor...
-intergrated motherboard graphic chip or even better a real graphic card chip with at least 64 MB.Both choices are good if the intergrated motherboard graphic chip doesn't suck.As long as they both support pixel shader 2.0,have at least 64 MB and support big resolutions on the screen monitor,both choices are good.Still...the real graphic card chip of at least 64 MB,at least pixel shader 2.0 support and support for the big resolutions on the screen monitor is always better...
-the hard disk drive should be big and have at least 5200 spins per second.Still that depends on how much data he will have,use and create.If he is programming a LOT of programs and WEB sites and writing a LOT of code and making a LOT of test programs and WEB sites then he needs a big hard disk drive of size lets say...500 GB.Still I must say that the programming REALLY takes a small amount of size so even the hard disk drive of 160 GB should be enough.Unless if he is using files of big size for the programming which I doubt it...
-monitor of any kind as long as it supports resolution 1024x768 or more.Depends if he is making programs/WEB sites to be always the same size or an autosize depending on the screen resolution...
-keyboard of any kind...
-mouse of any kind...
-at least 2 motherboard USB entrances at least version 1.1 or even better 2.0...
-make sure that the BIOS CMOS battery isnt super old,otherwise the time will always go back to the čast saved state.This can be important if he is creating and testing programs/WEB sites that include the time support and features for that...
-as for the hard disk drive type there are 2.IDE/PATA and SATA.Both choices are perfect for him.I would prefer IDE/PATA since it cheaper.Older,but he won't feel the difference at all since he is programming.Unless if he is transfering a BIG amount of data like crazy all the time...I use IDE/PATA and it is working perfectly no matter what I do.Programming,surfing the internet,using programs and even playing the most modern games.The SATA are supposed to be better because they support a LITTLE faster data transfer,but no really a big difference and also you do not need jumpers to tell the hard disk drive wether he is a MASTER,SALVE and so on.But since he is a programmer,I am pretty sure that he will know which hard disk drive and how to put them either for a MASTER drive or for a slave drive...







Cheers!
 
memory said:
Just to make sure you know this, an SSD will not help out boot times that much. You would think it would but it doesn't. I just bought an SSD thinking the same thing.
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I beg to differ. One of the benifits of ssd's is the faster boot times. If it's not faster for you, the it's another reason..

EDIT:AMD's had the top spot for igp's. I haven't looked into SB to see if Intel is now comparable.
 
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I have been told my many others that it will not help the boot time. And many others with an SSD do not experience faster boot times.
 
memory said:
I have been told my many others that it will not help the boot time. And many others with an SSD do not experience faster boot times.
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Start > msconfig > boot > advanced > NUMPROC

Change it the the highets number in the drop down list, this tells windows how many cores to use when loading the O/S, only god knows why it isn't set to the highest by default.
 
In there ^, on the boot tab, checking the box ' No GUI boot' does way with the Windows flag screen. Haven't timed it w-w/o.
 
memory said:
Just to make sure you know this, an SSD will not help out boot times that much. You would think it would but it doesn't. I just bought an SSD thinking the same thing. If anything, since AHCI is enabled I think it takes longer, have not timed it after installing the SSD. SSD make a big difference once it starts loading Windows. You can start running programs almost instantly.

For the GPU, he does not need a power house since he is not gaming. But I would definitely consider a dedicated GPU. What size monitor does he have?
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Ok, wel maybe no SSD then.

He has a two 21 inch monitor's
 
maroon1 said:
Remember to buy H67 motherboard if you want to use integrated graphics. i7 2600K & 2500K have better integrated graphics than non-k models. However, H67 motherboard doesn't support CPU overclocking.
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i dont really think hes planning to over clock. And honestly the CPU will be far more than he needs.

About the motherboard. H67 sounds like a good idea but another option could be a low end graphics card. Maybe a 5770?
 
linkin said:
Start > msconfig > boot > advanced > NUMPROC

Change it the the highets number in the drop down list, this tells windows how many cores to use when loading the O/S, only god knows why it isn't set to the highest by default.
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lol i have 4 cores and my was on 1 ive changed it to 4 will this make my pc faster ?
 
dellxps420 said:
ok but ive still put it to 4 is that ok
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I don't know. I remember the original question of what to set to from when dual cores 1st came out. Mine is set at 1 but I can see all 4 cores working.

The best way to test how it is performing for me is to download wPrime (free). Set thread count to 8. Run the 32m test. What is your score?
 
memory said:
I will try that. Should I also select the maximum memory as well?
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I did.

As far as the ssd. It's the single best upgrade, so there's a reason for that. I've seen user statements about their ssd speed, but there always seemed to be a reason. They picked one with not so great r/w or access times, it doesn't support trim, they benched it too much, erased it to much, didn't do everyhing they could have that pertained to the ssd's health, etc(not mentioning windows tweaks that apply to any drive). Not only should it be quicker within the os, but shut down, loading, and boot up are too.

Don't understand why your boot time appearently isn't what it should be, memory. You have one of the(about 5)ssd's that apperat to be at the top of the preffered list.
 
I have been told by many people online that it will not help the boot up time very much. It may be quicker but if it is, it is not by much. I have not timed it since I installed the SSD. Maybe it is quicker and it doesn't seem like it. But I can tell it is not cut in half.

I don't think there is anything wrong with my drive. When I ran a benchmark, I get normal readings.
 
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