ok, I couldnt use the norton because it is xp and this is a lap i got of ebay with windows 2000. the o.s was wiped out because so many virus, so drivers are reinstalled, and it works well. However I have a brand new toshiba satellite which also has mcafee installed, and would like to get rid of it without wiping out my system. I used the mcafee uninstall on the first lap, but it would not uninstall all of it. was that avfast or avfree? one of you recomended. any other suggestions for anti virus? any other anti stuff I should have?