Case and WaterCooling

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jellymonster

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bomberboysk said:
Actually the higher end radiator(RX) competes directly with the feser and thermochill models while the RS series are midrange. Their tops for the Laing DDC are unparalleled however.

Waterblocks:
I personally run a midrange block, the apogee GTZ which is an excellent block for the price. Another good block is the Dtek Fuzion V2, but i personally prefer the GTZ as it has a great finish and good flow rate.

Pump/Res:
I highly recommend the XSPC Resorvoir Top for the MCP355/Laing DDC, it has been tested multiple times to have the best flow rate of any top, eliminates the need for a seperate resorvoir as well(less fittings to deal with, less tubing in the loop, more flow as well)

Radiator:
Most hassle free way to mount a rad in that case would be getting an RX240, Thermochill PA 120.2, or Feser 240.

Fittings:
Cheaper than compressions, barbs are usually the way to go on a budget setup. Bitspower or Dangerden Fatboy barbs have the best flow rate of barbs for 1/2"

Tubing:
Tygon, Feser, Or Clearflex 60 for tubing, and get 1/2" ID by 3/4" OD.

Fans:
Honestly 120x38mm will give you the best results, however most are louder than 120x25mm fans. For 120x25mm fans i recommend the Coolermaster R4's, thats what i run and have decent results. For better cooling though, the medium speed ultra kaze, or the 120x38mm SilenX fans work pretty well.(SilenX fans are pretty pricey though)
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I love you man, you've just made my life so easy =) and all for less than £200. Nice one.
 
bomberboysk

bomberboysk

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Also not sure if you caught it or not as i didnt very clearly say it in my post, the Pump top still requires an MCP355/Laign DDC pump, the top is just a resorvoir+top.
 
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jellymonster

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bomberboysk said:
Also not sure if you caught it or not as i didnt very clearly say it in my post, the Pump top still requires an MCP355/Laign DDC pump, the top is just a resorvoir+top.
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I did get that, I did a lil research on tops for the mcp355 just to find your reccommendation gives the best flow rate haha.
 
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bomberboysk

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jellymonster said:
ok, just to verify.

I think these come in pairs so I need 3 pairs?
http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?products_id=577

and I was gonna get 10' of tubing, too much or too little?

also I have 2 of these fans already, are they any good?
http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=875037&source=froogle
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Those enermax fans arent very good, other than being somewhat quiet, airflow isnt that great.

Barbs come per fitting, not in pairs. No idea why they still take pictures of them in pairs when they are sold per fitting.
 
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jellymonster

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bomberboysk said:
Those enermax fans arent very good, other than being somewhat quiet, airflow isnt that great.

Barbs come per fitting, not in pairs. No idea why they still take pictures of them in pairs when they are sold per fitting.
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Dam, bought them for my CarPC because the specs were good (CFM looked better than rest), but now reading reviews, people say the air flow is 'mediocre'.

Probably go for the same fans you have as the main reason I'm going for water cooling is to have a near silent computer.
 
bomberboysk

bomberboysk

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jellymonster said:
ok last questions:
is this tubing any good?
http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=44_106_109&products_id=385

or should I get
http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/product.php?productid=4036

also, what cooling liquid is good? or doesn't it really matter.
I saw some really really blue liquid in some guys project, looked like this stuff http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?products_id=473.
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First is only the coils for around the tubing, not the tubing itself.

If you want color, run colored tubing, for the coolant distilled water is best and will provide the best temperatures as well as cheapest. For blue, this is decent stuff:
http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/product.php?productid=4547&cat=1238&page=1
 
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jellymonster

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ok, going for clear tubing =)

how much tubing do I need though? 10 feet enough? and I'm guessing when buying tubing, the price is per foot.

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?products_id=382 coolant?
how much coolant do I need? I'm guessing that I don't dilute it at all.

Also, will one of these work well?
http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=67_78&products_id=140
http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=67_78&products_id=143
I'm actually thinking the purple will look pretty cool and unique. But will they show up well? or are they just under UV lamp =S
 
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jellymonster

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Ok, got all of my things now. So far it's gone fairly well. Mounted the radiator externally ontop of the case, just waiting for some fittings for it now as it has much bigger threads than I thought.
I'm already thinking of water cooling my gpu (thread here: http://www.computerforum.com/166669-best-9800gtx-1gb-water-block.html

when it's finished I will post some pictures and results, I will also start a new thread on asthetics and what you guys think will look awesome (Y). Looking forward to hearing your replies.

Thanks everyone for all your input, have a happy new year
 
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jellymonster

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Hi again, sorry for the lack of updates, things haven't been going my way tbh.

Firstly I put the water cooling together (didn't test or anything, it went straight into my computer) and..... it leaker...... everywhere. The radiator leaker >_>. Bomberboysk, you're a legend for recommending non-conductive coolant, saved my computer.
Then about a week after, I wrote of my car =(. (attached a picture) Managed to fix it though, insurance suck at quoting >_>

So yesterday I received a new radiator and a few other bits I ordered (MCW60 for my graphics card) and put it together in the case, this time without the computer inside. (attached image with and without coolant).

Just one thing though, I left it running and there were a lot of bubbles. Wobbled it, stopped pump, did everything I could and there are still quite a lot of bubbles. What am I doing wrong?

In case you can't see the setup in the picture it's basically:
Pump/Res -> T-line -> Rad -> CPU -> GPU -> Pump/Res

I know it's odd to have T-Line and res, but I use T-Line to drain it.

Help please =)
 

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jellymonster

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MacBook said:
You need a way for the air to escape, open up the fill port on the reservoir when it's running.
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I had done that, you see in the picture with coolant in, the Res cap is off, and a tube is sticking out of it.

I've left it off overnight, so hopefully the small bubbles would have gathered into larger bubbles and will be easier to move.
 
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jellymonster

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jellymonster said:
I know it's odd to have T-Line and res, but I use T-Line to drain it.
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I just found it easier than draining it from the Res.
I have a res, because it's a better top for the pump than the stock one.

I didn't see a problem by doing this, but this is my first water cooling setup so I could be wrong?
 
just a noob

just a noob

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i dunno, but i think part of you problem with bleeding could be that the radiator is at the top of the loop, so tip the case on its front so that your t-line is the highest point, and shake the case while you pulse the pump(make sure it never goes dry though)
 
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jellymonster

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just a noob said:
i dunno, but i think part of you problem with bleeding could be that the radiator is at the top of the loop, so tip the case on its front so that your t-line is the highest point, and shake the case while you pulse the pump(make sure it never goes dry though)
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That's what I thought it could be, I did try tipping it a little bit, but not massively (I'm still a bit scared of it leaking so I'm delicate with it).

Tip it on it's front? I would imagine tipping it on it's back would be better ;)
I'll try some more tippage when I get home from work.

Do you think I will harm the system if I put the Res cap on and tipped the system upside down?
 
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