comparison question

I see people on different forums always talking about how the Q6600 is better than the E8400. I still do not understand this thinking. I have both of these processors, and in everyday use the e8400 significantly outperforms the Q6600. On the majority of situations, the added two cores are not utilized to potential. This means that in the majority of situations the higher clock frequency is dominant. As far as the Q6600 being a good overclocker, it is not quite as good as the E8400 for overclocking. Many people say that the Q6600 is better because it is more "future proof". It seems incredibly absurd to use the words "future proof" when talking about cpu's. By the time software is supporting 4 cores in the mainstream, the Q6600 will be like discussing the Pentium 4. If you regularly do a specific task with software that utilizes the quadcore than it would definitely be the way to go. For most of us this is not the case. As it stands right now, the Q6600 loses to the E8400 in most real-life computing and while you are waiting for software to catch up to the point that the Q6600 is dominating.........Nehalem will be mainstream. Sorry for the long post.
 
Mtag said:
I see people on different forums always talking about how the Q6600 is better than the E8400. I still do not understand this thinking. I have both of these processors, and in everyday use the e8400 significantly outperforms the Q6600. On the majority of situations, the added two cores are not utilized to potential. This means that in the majority of situations the higher clock frequency is dominant. As far as the Q6600 being a good overclocker, 1[it is not quite as good as the E8400 for overclocking]. Many people say that the Q6600 is better because it is more "future proof". It seems incredibly absurd to use the words "future proof" when talking about cpu's. By the time software is supporting 4 cores in the mainstream, the Q6600 will be like discussing the Pentium 4. If you regularly do a specific task with software that utilizes the quadcore than it would definitely be the way to go. For most of us this is not the case. As it stands right now, the Q6600 loses to the E8400 in most real-life computing and while you are waiting for software to catch up to the point that the Q6600 is dominating.........Nehalem will be mainstream. Sorry for the long post.
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Two things,

1. How much is not quite? .2ghz? .4ghz? This is not alot. Barely worth consideration, IMO. You didn't mention that the wolfsdale chip is using a smaller fab process, a big draw as well, yet once again I would consider it a lacking argument. The quad is a mighty OC'er, and the wolfdale is just slightly better and cooler.

And the whole future-proof jib. It's really, really hard for insiders to predict when the software will catch up to the hardware. So I don't consider much of what I say on the matter near definitive. But I can say that recent steps have been taken by Intel that predict a fast and effective response to the situation. The bought a bloody game engine, they've never done that before. They're taking their massive R&D department off the leash and the target is parallel computing, symmetric multiprocessing.

And while we wait, I don't actual believe the most of us would see such a large difference from the e8400, except for the better. They nearly cost the same for Christ sakes, it's not like we lose much going that route (cept a couple points in ______ <- insert synthetic E-penis benchmarking program here) yet we gain better multi-tasking and a, perhaps false or possibly late, sense of promise for future potential.

don't worry about the longness, yours or mine, it's better than the one word responses we get around here. :D
 
*gets a BIG bag of popcorn, a GIANT soda, reclines the chair, and enjoys the show while picking up TONS of info!*

OH BOY!! haha.

As I have said before in other topics, Im trying to get the best that I can afford, and to do that, I have already spent countless hours here reading countless posts. I learn TONS of new info almost every day :)

Thanks again to everybody, from the short sentence posters to the short essay posters :P

It's all greatly appriciated. This is by far the best info I could ever get from sombody at Fry's or Best-Buy :P
 
mep916 said:
Q6600. :D

Great post (as usual), hermeslyre. ;)
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D'oh!

Thanks mep.
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fricken cheesy there ^^

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Eh' alittle better.

MBGraphics said:
It's all greatly appriciated. This is by far the best info I could ever get from sombody at Fry's or Best-Buy :P
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You got that right. We are so smart. :D
 
Compared to most of their employees, yes you are.

I tried them, both of them. The end product was dissasterous.

I asked one of the guys about RAID, and I kid you not, he said "Sorry, I dont think we sell bug spray."
By that point I was like:eek: and just walked out:rolleyes:.
And now, thanks to them, I still have absolutly no clue what RAID is except it has to do with 2 or more HDD's.
That was at FRY's.

I tried best-buy. and I asked, "Do you guys sell any ATI HD3870's here?"
Again, I kid you not, this is what he said, "I havnt heard of that T.V. If you want I can check the computer for it."

I just wanted to say "dont go anywhere near a computer from now on" (because this WAS in the "Computer Section".
 
haha, for want of a technocracy. :rolleyes:

it gets worse when you try to correct or point something out to them. They might get offended! :eek: Oh noes! noobs.

Some are very nice and knowledgeable on the other hand.. I've heard...
 
hermeslyre said:
Two things,

1. How much is not quite? .2ghz? .4ghz?

About .5GHz in my specific case. Granted, not an awful lot to some people. However, why overclock if improved clock cycle means little?

And the whole future-proof jib. It's really, really hard for insiders to predict when the software will catch up to the hardware. So I don't consider much of what I say on the matter near definitive. But I can say that recent steps have been taken by Intel that predict a fast and effective response to the situation. The bought a bloody game engine, they've never done that before. They're taking their massive R&D department off the leash and the target is parallel computing, symmetric multiprocessing.

Absolutely, it is coming without a doubt. Not many of us will be using our current CPU when it gets here though.

And while we wait, I don't actual believe the most of us would see such a large difference from the e8400, except for the better. They nearly cost the same for Christ sakes, it's not like we lose much going that route (cept a couple points in ______ <- insert synthetic E-penis benchmarking program here) yet we gain better multi-tasking and a, perhaps false or possibly late, sense of promise for future potential.

Seems to me that the Q6600 is the one that shines in the "E-penis (synthetic) benchmarking programs". The E8400 pulls ahead in all productivity software that is not designed for multiple cores (nearly everything).

Now this is just my opinions from using and researching both CPU's. I am relatively new to the whole "enthusiast" thing. I am sure many people can on this forum can show me the error of my ways. That is why I am here!

Sure messed up the quote thing. Sorry!!
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hermeslyre said:
About .5GHz in my specific case. Granted, not an awful lot to some people. However, why overclock if improved clock cycle means little?

Absolutely, it is coming without a doubt. Not many of us will be using our current CPU when it gets here though.

Seems to me that the Q6600 is the one that shines in the "E-penis (synthetic) benchmarking programs". The E8400 pulls ahead in all productivity software that is not designed for multiple cores (nearly everything).

Now this is just my opinions from using and researching both CPU's. I am relatively new to the whole "enthusiast" thing. I am sure many people can on this forum can show me the error of my ways. That is why I am here!

Sure messed up the quote thing. Sorry!!
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.5hz, nice bit of extra headroom. Still I don't believe overclocking for overclocking sake is what we're after. Performance gained, now there's a gem. :D And to that end I still don't think that bit of extra OC is going to make a tremendous amount of difference. After a certain point, in present games and in other apps, raw clock speed fails to deliver proportionate gains.

I might. lol. Not an enthusiast in strictest sense here, I try to keep my parts for as long as I can and still game respectably. In the sense most games are more GPU intensive than CPU, I might have changed my graphics card by then....

True, but for benchmarks. What I mean is stick both chips side by side and mix em up. Procede to game, or whatever task floats your boat. The FPS/time taken/general speed of the two would be hard to tell apart, and that's my opinion. I'm not certain anyone here is going to be able to show you the error of your ways, because frankly I don't see any. Our opinions are like two sides of the same coin, one side for the subsequent, and one for now. Now isn't going to last long and the future may be far off, but no one can blame our lack of prescience for it.

Welcome to the forums! :)
 
*stands up*

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*claps at hermeslyre*

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hermeslyre said:
it gets worse when you try to correct or point something out to them. They might get offended! :eek: Oh noes! noobs.

Some are very nice and knowledgeable on the other hand.. I've heard...
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Haha that reminds me, when I was looking for a good price on 8800GT/HD3870, I went to BestBuy and saw the BFG 8800GT (which is the only brand they had at Bestbuy at the time) were gone. So, I ask one of their people if they had any left (you know hidden or in their "beyond" room :P) and the guy was like:

"Sorry we don't have any more, but take a look at this 8600 GT from PNY, it's the same thing except it's another brand but that doesn't make a big difference. And it's $20 less."

I wanted to correct him so bad! But I felt bad, and left. :D
 
lol. I feel sorry for him, It's almost like he was just confused or something! "Uh, you sure about that man? Think it through, no rush!"

The no advise is better than bad advise should be adopted outside the forums more than this. People are so getting Pwned by all these dudes, some no more than teens, that stereotyping automatically puts into the tech smart club.

i don't know why but it makes me antsy just thinking about it. :D

oh and

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*bows*

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Look at that over there, a q9450 on the ground! How lucky!

*runs away*
 
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