Configuring my Ubiquiti NanoBeam 5 GHz, 16 dBi airMAX (NBE-5AC-16)

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farmerjohn1324

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It is plugged in. The power is on. It has ethernet cables going from the cable modem to the Ethernet port and another cable from the port to the device.

The instructions say to type in https://192.168.1.20/ in a browser. When I do this, it says "connection timed out."

The Internet is working because I am non it right now. There is also a cable going from the modem to my computer.

Did I do the wiring wrong?
 
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You're probably not on the same network. Open a command prompt and type ipconfig to figure out what your computer's IP address is. If it's different than the IP address Ubiquiti specifies, then you need to direct connect to the nanobeam and give yourself a static IP address (such as 192.168.1.25 subnet 255.255.255.0) and then change the IP address of the nanobeam to match the IP of your network.

I have a feeling you'll be way over your head on this and you should have a wireless specialist come set up your new network.
 
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voyagerfan99 said:
You're probably not on the same network. Open a command prompt and type ipconfig to figure out what your computer's IP address is. If it's different than the IP address Ubiquiti specifies, then you need to direct connect to the nanobeam and give yourself a static IP address (such as 192.168.1.25 subnet 255.255.255.0) and then change the IP address of the nanobeam to match the IP of your network.

I have a feeling you'll be way over your head on this and you should have a wireless specialist come set up your new network.
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I can always try. According to ipconfig, my IP addresses are:

IPv4 Address: 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1

Unless corrected, I will go with the assumption that the top one is the IP address (192.168.0.2)I'm looking for.
 
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Leave the gateway blank. You just need the IP address and subnet.

Once you can connect and log into the nanobeam, change the IP address of the nanobeam to something on the 192.168.0.x network.
 
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voyagerfan99 said:
Leave the gateway blank. You just need the IP address and subnet.

Once you can connect and log into the nanobeam, change the IP address of the nanobeam to something on the 192.168.0.x network.
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When I change the IP addresses like this with the Ubiquiti product attached, it gives me the following two screens when I type in https:// followed by the two IP addresses I tried...

To get back on the Internet, I plug the cable modem back in and it does not work because the IP addresses have been changed, so I have to click "choose automatically" on the IPv4 screen to get it to work.

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Use internet explorer, not Firefox. And you only need to go to the 192.168.1.20 address. 192.168.1.25 isn't gonna do anything.

You'll see that warning about the connection being insecure. That's normal. Just click the ignore button so you can log in.
 
Geoff

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When you navigate to 192.168.1.20, click advanced and show anyways. It's because you're using HTTPS without a signed certificate.
 
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voyagerfan99 said:
Use internet explorer, not Firefox. And you only need to go to the 192.168.1.20 address. 192.168.1.25 isn't gonna do anything.

You'll see that warning about the connection being insecure. That's normal. Just click the ignore button so you can log in.
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I got the the nanobeam Configuration page. Made a username and password.

So where am I at now with trying to cast my cable modem out to this whole RV park?

I can't get on the Internet with the nanobeam plugged in. I have to plug the cable modem back in directly and change the IP addresses back to "automatic."

What should I do next?
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farmerjohn1324 said:
So where am I at now with trying to cast my cable modem out to this whole RV park?
What should I do next?
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Not buy stuff that you don't know about.

The antenna that came with that is meant for point to point bridge deployments. Take a look at the hplane and eplane graphs here:
https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/NanoBeam_ac/NanoBeam_ac_DS.pdf
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farmerjohn1324 said:
Do I need any other hardware? This is what the salesperson told me to get on the phone. All I have is this...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lggz2r91dtlm7rc/Ubiquiti.jpg?dl=0

Can you at least point me in the right direction of why this is not working? Even a few sentences?
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You need to set it up with a static IP address that matches your network topology. You then plug it back into your router and continue configuring it.

However this device is useless for you because you need more than just a nanobeam to accomplish what you want. You need a second Nanobeam to receive the signal. The second Nanobeam would be connected to a switch on the same network, which would then connect to several access points, in order to give your trailer park the wireless coverage you are looking for.

You should have spoken with a reputable company that could plan this out for you as far as purchasing the necessary hardware. They could have also sent you in the direction of a reputable contractor to install and configure it.

Give these people a call. I've dealt with them in the past. Their contact information is on the bottom of the page.
http://www.doubleradius.com/
 
Geoff

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The Nanobeam is a point to point device. As I told you in your other thread where you asked about getting WiFi to devices far away, I told you something like this device would be used to reach that far end point, but you'd need a wireless access point plugged into the second Nanobeam to provide an omni-directional signal to the nearby users. You aren't going to find a device that can cover a long range in addition to being omni-directional.
 
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Geoff said:
The Nanobeam is a point to point device. As I told you in your other thread where you asked about getting WiFi to devices far away, I told you something like this device would be used to reach that far end point, but you'd need a wireless access point plugged into the second Nanobeam to provide an omni-directional signal to the nearby users. You aren't going to find a device that can cover a long range in addition to being omni-directional.
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Okay well that salesmen didn't know what he was talking about, then. He said this is all I would need.

(probably just trying to make a sale)...

voyagerfan99 said:
You need to set it up with a static IP address that matches your network topology. You then plug it back into your router and continue configuring it.

However this device is useless for you because you need more than just a nanobeam to accomplish what you want. You need a second Nanobeam to receive the signal. The second Nanobeam would be connected to a switch on the same network, which would then connect to several access points, in order to give your trailer park the wireless coverage you are looking for.

You should have spoken with a reputable company that could plan this out for you as far as purchasing the necessary hardware. They could have also sent you in the direction of a reputable contractor to install and configure it.

Give these people a call. I've dealt with them in the past. Their contact information is on the bottom of the page.
http://www.doubleradius.com/
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Thanks. I will call that company.
 
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I have a question, though.... I have been to small motels that had wireless Internet to every room. They did not have any fancy Ubiquiti stuff. I'm assuming all they had was one router in their office. Why can't I do this?

I currently have this, and it's a Belkin that does the job, just not far enough. Isn't there something I can get that's just like the Belkin router I have... but will extend just a little bit further?

I don't understand the difference between a router and an access point. Can someone tell me?
 
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Geoff

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farmerjohn1324 said:
I have a question, though.... I have been to small motels that had wireless Internet to every room. They did not have any fancy Ubiquiti stuff. I'm assuming all they had was one router in their office. Why can't I do this?

I currently have this, and it's a Belkin that does the job, just not far enough. Isn't there something I can get that's just like the Belkin router I have... but will extend just a little bit further?

I don't understand the difference between a router and an access point. Can someone tell me?
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Where did you come to the conclusion that motels only have one access point in the office, and what manufacture it was? Most hotels have access points in the hallways every few rooms staggered per floor. One access point only has so much range due to FCC power and antenna restrictions, even if you managed to boost this on your access point, the clients still transmit at very low power.

The simplest way is to run ethernet or fiber to multiple access points spread out that provide wireless coverage to the large area you need. Even if you did manage to get one device to cover the entire area, once you get more than say a dozen or two of users streaming, it will severely bog the wireless network down making it unusable. You need more access points on different channels to provide that kind of capacity.

A wireless router is your typical Linksys, Belkin, Netgear, etc. device that you find in stores like Best Buy that you connect your modem to, and it provides wired and wireless access. An access point has a single ethernet port and is plugged into your existing network and only provides wireless access to your wired network. With an access point, you need existing device(s) providing DHCP and routing.
 
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Geoff said:
Where did you come to the conclusion that motels only have one access point in the office, and what manufacture it was? Most hotels have access points in the hallways every few rooms staggered per floor. One access point only has so much range due to FCC power and antenna restrictions, even if you managed to boost this on your access point, the clients still transmit at very low power.

The simplest way is to run ethernet or fiber to multiple access spread out that provide wireless coverage to the large area you need. Even if you did manage to get one device to cover the entire area, once you get more than say a dozen or two of users streaming, it will severely bog the wireless network down making it unusable. You need more access points on different channels to provide that kind of capacity.

A wireless router is your typical Linksys, Belkin, Netgear, etc. device that you find in stores like Best Buy that you connect your modem to, and it provides wired and wireless access. An access point has a single ethernet port and is plugged into your existing network and only provides wireless access to your wired network. With an access point, you need existing device(s) providing DHCP and routing.
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Is the NBE-5AC-16 I just bought an access point? Should it be wired to my cable modem or to a router?

In a hotel, are the access points all wired to a modem or router (if so, which?)?

Do the access points in a hotel look similar to the NBE-5AC-16 I have?

PS: Have you seen Nick Burns Your Companies Computer Guy on SNL? I don't even watch TV and I'm not a fan of Jimmy Fallon usually... but that is FUNNY!!!

"MOVE!!!!"
 
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farmerjohn1324 said:
In a hotel, are the access points all wired to a modem or router (if so, which?)?
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Usually a switch and may or may not tie into a wireless controller.
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Do the access points in a hotel look similar to the NBE-5AC-16 I have?
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Not really, for hotel access you usually want broad coverage so would roll with omnidirectional antennas and similar. Occasionally there are patch type of antennas at the end of hallways that provide a more directional gain for those corridors. You'll also have multiple quantities of AP.

A lot of run down type of hotels have some crappy consumer router, but you can't get coverage after a few rooms.

In your specific use case something like the UAP-AC-Lite would probably be a better suit.
 
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