Cooler-less Celeron?/ CPU Frying.... WOOT!!!

bumblebee_tuna

bumblebee_tuna

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While we're sort of on the remove-heatsink-while-computer-is-on-an-watch-it-fry subject, I don't know if this is right but I remember back when I had one of the first eMachines (real POS), when I opened it up, CPU didn't have any heatsink or cooler on it...... is that even possible....? It was a Celeron (not D) processor so would that even produce enough heat to need a heatsink?

Also post more links of processors frying because that was fun to watch......
 
I had an old emachine a while back...an old AMD K6 333MHz. I ran it once without the cooler and it did fine, but I'm sure it would overheat before too long.

Now, I can't ever recall seeing a celeron without some sort of HS, but I'm sure most would fry pretty quickly. However, I know the P4's would underclock if they began to overheat. I'd imagine most of the Celerons would too... Hmm...give me an old Socket 370 and I'll test out this old Celeron 700MHz I've got ;)
 
I wish I could but we ended up giving it away to somebody who needed a computer for school..... If I still had it I could tell you right now if it had a heatsink....
 
About how fast was it? I recall my friends Slot1 Celeron having a heatsync(even a fan) and my grandparents's 700MHz having both as well... I guess you'd be fine if it was slow enough(which 300MHz is as slow as they got, I think...) But most processors around that time had "Heatsync and Fan required" printed on the top.
 
most of my pentium 1s run fine without. my current celery d 3.06ghz ran fine untill I realized the heatsink was off and shut it off:o it was still in the bios luckily, lol
 
Hm, I had a really old P1 a few years ago, 333mhz P1 i believe. I opened it up before I tossed it, the CPU had a small aluminum heatsink on it. So im not sure why your celeron didn't have one..
 
diduknowthat said:
Hm, I had a really old P1 a few years ago, 333mhz P1 i believe. I opened it up before I tossed it, the CPU had a small aluminum heatsink on it. So im not sure why your celeron didn't have one..
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well.. the MHz doesnt tell anything about the heat it produces.
Processors use a certain ammount of power, and a % of that power is dissipated into heat. now, if you have a processor that uses very few power, it wont get very hot :)
 
My p100 and p133 both run fine without HS or Fan, but My 600 - 735MHz celly's do not, they get to about 60c an then hang.:D
 
well.. no.. it all energy is dissipated to hear... the processor's output pinn's would be '0' all the time
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Well, it would have to end up as heat somewhere, maybe the motherboard.
 
I wouldn't argue with Yeti on thermals, trust me, it never ends well. ;)

You are right though, a portion of the electrical energy is converted to heat in the processor and needs to be dissipated by the heatsink. The rest gets converted elsewhere.
 
Cromewell said:
I wouldn't argue with Yeti on thermals, trust me, it never ends well. ;)

You are right though, a portion of the electrical energy is converted to heat in the processor and needs to be dissipated by the heatsink. The rest gets converted elsewhere.
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why not?

and, ofcourse i am.. :P

but seriously.. if all the energy would be converted to hear, the pc wouldnt do anything at all.. a big deal of the energy is used to throw all the 'switches' inside the processor, the IC's on the motherboard etc.
ofcourse.. with every time you swich a Ic or something like that, you loose energy in Heat,.. but never everything ;)
 
Hmmm.... maybe it had a small heatsink or something, but definitely no fan....

The compy I had only one available optical drive and you were screwed if it ever failed because it was intergrated into the case.... Otherwise it was a barebone PC.....

Edit: I think it had 1 Ghz and 20 GB HHD.
 
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That's one of the newer emachine's if I recall correctly. I know mine didn't have the black stripe down it. Actually, one of my friends had one similar to that and it was a 1GHz celeron...
 
The_Other_One said:
That's one of the newer emachine's if I recall correctly. I know mine didn't have the black stripe down it. Actually, one of my friends had one similar to that and it was a 1GHz celeron...
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Huh..... I thought eMachines was a fairly new company; I remember it had the old green logo. I'm sorry but even for a first computer, it was a real POS.

Edit: Come to think about it, it would be really hard to have a fan or heatsink on the CPU because the PSU sat right over the mobo......

Edit x2: I completely forgot about my first, first computer.... it was an old hand-me-down from my dad an I remember the first virus I got on it too (the old Michelangello [<-- not spelled right] virus). All I remember was it had Windows 95 on it, it took 5 minutes to load, and it had a bunch of 2D games on it like Snake and Brick.... Oh ya, and Chip's Challenge....
 
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but seriously.. if all the energy would be converted to hear, the pc wouldnt do anything at all.. a big deal of the energy is used to throw all the 'switches' inside the processor, the IC's on the motherboard etc.
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That process of switching the 'switch' is the process that creates heat, the more power you run through it (indirectly via increasing the voltage). Other heat is generated by transitor leakage. Sooner the power will end up as heat.

We don't argue thermals with Yeti because it makes your brain explode.

I had a Pentium 75 that would run fine with only a tiny AL heatsink (about 1/4" tall) but it only had a TDP of 6W.
 
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