HD 4670 needs to go...

Do you have a multimeter? That PSu only has 24A on the 12V rail and could be responsible for low framerates. Test the 12V rail with a multimeter under load and post voltages.

Your CPU alone can draw nearly 12A and with such low efficiency, no active PFC etc that PSU is probably underpowered.
 
1920 x 1080 60hz

uhh, I said hard drive not monitor LOL.

Do you have a multimeter? That PSu only has 24A on the 12V rail and could be responsible for low framerates. Test the 12V rail with a multimeter under load and post voltages.

Your CPU alone can draw nearly 12A and with such low efficiency, no active PFC etc that PSU is probably underpowered.

He was running a 4670 before that with the same issue, now he's running a card with an external 6 pin connector. He also has a decent PSU, I doubt it's the problem.

But to rule that out, perhaps take the CPU back to stock clocks and see what happens.
 
uhh, I said hard drive not monitor LOL.

HAHA! The only resolution I know is video resolution. What do you mean what resolution am I running my hard drive at?

Okay I'll take cpu to stock and see what happens. I will also take aa and af off.
 
uhh, I said hard drive not monitor LOL.

What hard drive do you have?

it's a wd 320gb caviar blue

What resolution are you running it at?

1920 x 1080 60hz

:)

HAHA! The only resolution I know is video resolution. What do you mean what resolution am I running my hard drive at?

Okay I'll take cpu to stock and see what happens. I will also take aa and af off.

You were right first time, and post the results from dropping your OC and the settings
 
Hahaha, I didn't even see where he posted the HDD he had, Alien snuck in that question about the monitor and I thought Durk was responding to my HDD question LOL.

Uhh, I would try one at a time. Don't drop the settings AND the overclock, then it's hard to determine which made the difference. Drop the OC first, and leave current settings. If that doesn't work, drop the settings.
 
I did some research on that power supply, it is not of good quality, and actually looks like a piece of crap. Maybe Bigfella is right, and your system is not being sufficiently supplied with power.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008&Tpk=Corsair 400w

I say try going with this. It's $49.99 but after rebates it's a mere $30. Even if it doesn't help, your system will have that sense of security, and you won't have to worry about it kicking the bucket. That corsair is of very high quality, and should be more than sufficient for your system. I guarantee you that that power supply is 10x better than yours... I mean it's a 400w with 30a on the 12v, while yours is a 650w with 24a?
 
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I have been wanting to replace the psu for a long time I just never know what to replace it with. There's so many choices and I never know if I will need the extra power.

anyways... niether of those things worked even both at the same time. what's weird is the trees never load. they are always just a bunch of 2d squares... no matter what i do with the settings. what do you guys think?
 
Hmmm, I would go with more than a 400w. His CPU alone is drawing 200.


I would go with this at the minimum-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371035

Or this one is good-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341022

I wouldn't buy the OCZ, the earthwatts is a delta build and of the two thats what i would go with.

400W though is plenty sufficient for that system, although not alot of headroom for the way of upgrades.

I'd go with one of these though:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151080
 
I wouldn't buy the OCZ, the earthwatts is a delta build and of the two thats what i would go with.

400W though is plenty sufficient for that system, although not alot of headroom for the way of upgrades.

I'd go with one of these though:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151080

Well his CPU is probably drawing 180-200w, and the 4830 another 95w or more if he overclocks that too. I'd say that 12v rail is VERY maxxed out with the corsair 400w. But I like the seasonic choice, good find I missed that one.



I have been wanting to replace the psu for a long time I just never know what to replace it with. There's so many choices and I never know if I will need the extra power.

anyways... niether of those things worked even both at the same time. what's weird is the trees never load. they are always just a bunch of 2d squares... no matter what i do with the settings. what do you guys think?

so you think my gpu problem has to do with my psu? Your sure I need a different psu?

If the GPU isn't supplying enough power, it could screw things up. But taking away the overclock and no help has me concerned that it's still not the problem.

so what if i replace the psu and it's not fixed?

You're issues really sound driver related. ATI cards and their settings are not my forte' (besides overclocking), I don't really like them that much. I've owned several, but still don't like them.

Once you get the power supply, you can try overclocking the 4830 and see if that helps too. Although the GPU should be plenty strong to play the game already even at 1080p, so I don't really understand whats going on. I wish I lived closer to you, I'd come over check it out myself.


The 4830 he got for a good bit cheaper is just as strong as a 9800gt/5670.
 
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so what if i replace the psu and it's not fixed?

As i said earlier, do you have a multimeter? You can test the 12V rails from a molex connector and test how low the 12V rail goes during a period of gaming. This will tell you if the 12V rail goes out of ATX spec and therefore support my view that your low powered POS PSU could be causing this issue. It is a common issue for under-powered systems. Alternatively you could borrow a PSU of good quality. I would recommend a minimum of 26A on the 12V rail, 80%+ efficiency, active PFC, EPS cert and 500W min if you plan on doing any future upgrades.
 
I do have a multimeter but I have no idea what you mean by 12V rails from a molex connector lol is there any kind of graphic that would show me where to connect the leads to test this?
 
Molex connectors are the 4 pin peripheral connectors that old IDE drives take for power. Your power supply should have most likely about 6-8 of them on 2 lines.

The red and black wires are power/ground, thats what you want to test. But the problem is, your power supply has 2 rails. Testing at the molex connector will only be testing one of the rails.
 
Not sure if this helps but all connectors read 5.22V when not gaming and anywhere between 5.25V and 5.27V while gaming.
 
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