HD 4670 needs to go...

StrangleHold said:
Tell me something I dont already know. Your missing the whole point. You start with a lowend midrange card and go to a semi upper midrange, thats not what I would spend money on, calling it a upgrade. Doubling crap frame rates, big deal.

If you were building computers for customers that wanted a upgrade. It better be a big noticeable difference or you have people coming back pitching a fit (like here). You be honest with people, like this dude, yes its a upgrade. But worth the time and money, No! Better to wait till you have money for a better card to be a large noticeable difference


Dont really care. You do know I'm involved in a computer shop and have a part time business of my own. Been doing this for 16 years. Probable bought more video cards in the last year then you have owned computers in your life.
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No, you are missing the point. The 4830 should be plenty of card to game on 1080p.

I don't care if you've sold 50 million cards...what does selling a card new in box do for your experience in this area? jack. I've benched the 43 cards I've owned in the last 6 months.
 
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No, its not a fight yet. Not till the crude-nasty and ugly comes out.

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87dtna said:
No, you are missing the point. The 4830 should be plenty of card to game on 1080p.

I don't care if you've sold 50 million cards...what does selling a card new in box do for your experience in this area? jack. I've benched the 43 cards I've owned in the last 6 months.
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Somehow its went from 24 to 43 cards. Yeah! Give me a paragraph on that one too.


What ever you want to think about measuring your experence to mine, which you dont seem to get. I Dont Care. Meaningless in my world. Not trying to change your mind or do I care. Was giving the OP advice that the upgrade was a waste of money. If you cant handle that, get over it!
 
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24 different cards, I've owned more than 1 of each to SLI/Xfire etc.

Your world? Well your world isn't the real world then because in the real world a 4830 can effortlessly play 95% of games on 1080p.

Sims 3 is less graphically challenging than COD WAW, based on looking at the minimum requirements of the game, which is what I have tested all these cards on.
 
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Now see, the really sad part is he's going to believe you are right simply because his PC still isn't playing the game correctly....when in fact the real truth is there has to be an underlying cause because the GPU isn't even being stressed past 75% usage. If the GPU was underpowered, it'd be pegged at 100% the entire time. If you know anything about benching hardware, you'll know thats true. So whats the cause? I don't know, but what I do know is a 4830 is capable of playing that game with acceptable frame rates....meaning 50+ with zero lag.
 
bigfellla said:
wanna tell us why he has crappy FPS then? Strangle has an excellent reputation and I agree with him. You talked down several suggestions different to yours 87dtna, but now we have a situation where the OP is not getting what you said he would. That is a much better gaming experience.
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I'll say this yet again, the GPU is only getting 75% usage, if it was underpowered it'd be pegged at 100%. Something else is wrong, which is what we need to focus on rather than bash 87dtna because he must be wrong thread.

What other suggestions? A 5770? Thats the only one I see, which is a $150 card, plus that he'd need to upgrade his PSU so you're talking $200+ for an unnessesary upgrade when the 4830 for $70 should be PLENTY to run this game at 1080p.
 
Mate back off, let him do the software updates etc that I suggested and stop being so full of yourself. This thread will likely be closed because of all this crap, but the OP, the actual important one got bum advice from you, and saying it must be something else, without actually saying what that is, in nonsense.

The card you recommended didn't give the results. Have you actually seen Sim3, its quite graphically challenging as it is 3d etc. In fact, although the 4830 is technically above minimum specs for that game, the only two 4 series cards that the official Sim3 website claims are supported are the 4850 and 4870. http://www.thesims3.com/game/systemreq

The point is your suggestion has proven to be crap, and all the jumping up and down, without any further proof of it being something else seems unlikely to help matters.

I am again pushing for the software updates, as many have recoreded a massive FPS drop with 1.3 patch fixed with 1.4. Just leave it for a bit 87dtna and let the OP try someone else's advice without it being burried in your defences.
 
bigfellla said:
In fact, although the 4830 is technically above minimum specs for that game, the only two 4 series cards that the official Sim3 website claims are supported are the 4850 and 4870.
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The 4830 overclocked is the same thing as a 4850. So why won't it work again? Oh yeah thats right, it's not the card thats the problem. The ''minimum spec'' is a 7300gt, but obviously not for 1080p.

The point is your suggestion has proven to be crap
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What proof? I already proved that it's not the GPU. If the GPU was too weak, the usage would be pegged at 100%. Is this too hard of a concept to grasp? OMFG
 
how does the hd4670 not play sims 3, if it can held gta 4 with a dual core and 1.5gb ram on medium then something must be wrong
 
Different game engines will perform differently. It also matters what resolutions your are comparing. To the OP, please try my suggestions re updates, and have a read of this which says basically you will need a powerful GPU to play at 1900 x 1080, however that was a year ago. http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Games/Guides/sims3performance/

It may not be the card, but I would like to see the OP update all the software as the latest patches appear to help matters.
 
Well, I'm glad you posted that link. They called a 9800gt ''overkill'' for this game, and a 4830 is identical in performance to a 9800gt.

Also, With a 9600gso they were getting 43 fps with HIGH quality at 1680x1050 resolution. A 4830 whips a 9600gso easily, the 9600gso is probably around the same performance with 4670 was. There should be ZERO issues running this game on a 4830 with 1080p.

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If you have a dual-core system, and a video card as good as at least a 9600 GT or HD 3850 (or better), then you you shouldn't have much trouble running the game in the highest settings across the board.
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I wasn't able to overclock by much without it being unstable.. only about 50mhz for mem and core clocks. If I go anymore I get those random squares during gameplay. I've spent a lot of hours trying to overclock it and haven't gotten much out of it. I still can't play the sims 3 even at medium settings? I've tried all versions of drivers, ati catalyst, etc. I've reinstalled windows, uninstalled and reinstalled everything to do with graphics...

did some fps monitoring with afterburner... looks like I'm getting fps in the hundreds (200-300+ which doesn't seem possible lol) and sometimes it drops down to anywhere from 12-20-30. I am so confused because this is on the lowest settings and it's still horrible. I'm putting my other card in and seeing what happens.

UPDATE: Okay, turns out my 4670 is just as good if not better than my 5830 when running sims 3... somethings not right here... could it have something to do with directx?

my 4670 scored a 9463 while my 4830 scored a 13388 so obviously the 4830 is better but why can't it run sims 3?

UPDATE: Just saw your post bigfellla. I am doing all of the stuff you said right now and I will post with an update soon.

Okay did all the stuff you said. during gameplay, faps would show fps into the hundreds. when I choose to go somewhere or do something the fps drops down to eventually 1. then once the action is complete and all is still the fps jumps back up again. this is on low settings...

wtf is all i can say
 
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