i3, i5, and i7

This is in the realm of you arguing for the sheer point of it.

Your going to use Socket 775 in you argument against compatible? Your going to win on that one.:(

The whole point in this doesnt really have anything to do with forward or backward compatible. Which it does have to a point, thats even another bonus!!

The point is each processor in a series AM2/AM2+ or AM3, from the lowest Sempron to the highest Athlon/Phenom will run on their matching socket.

All AM2 processors fit two sockets - (AM2/+) AM2 boards have DDR2 800/HT 1000/2000 and PCIe 1.0

All AM2+ processors fit two Sockets - (AM2/+) AM2+ boards have DDR2 1066/HT 2600/5200 and PCIe 2.0. Plus its a bonus if its a Quality AM2+ Board, All AM2/+/3 processors will run on it.

All AM3 processors fit three Sockets - (AM2/+/3) AM3 boards have DDR3 1333/HT 2600/5200 and PCIe 2.0. But alot AM2 boards were never gave a AM2+/3 processor bios update because of power issues.

AM2/+ processors are being fazed out, might even be hard to find one by the end of the year. Dropping 65nm.

The point in this is, if you have a AM2+ board and want to upgrade to a better AM3 processor now or later you can without buying a board and memory.

The second point is from the slowest Sempron to the fastest Athlon/Phenom will all fit their perspective socket.

There is not a different socket for the Sempron, a different socket for the Athlon and another one for the Phenom (This is what Intel is doing)
 
Ethan3.14159 said:
Umm, have you been living under a rock?
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No I haven't and you are correct. Apologies. I think it was a bit too early in the morning to post. :o

StrangleHold said:
This is in the realm of you arguing for the sheer point of it.

There is not a different socket for the Sempron, a different socket for the Athlon and another one for the Phenom (This is what Intel is doing)
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Not really, I just don't see it the same as you.
 
Bodaggit23 said:
Not really, I just don't see it the same as you.
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If you see it that way or not, thats just the way it is.

Intel is going to have what 3 or 4 different sockets? Depending on the level of processor you want, you have to get one socket or the other. If you upgrade to the next level processor, you have to get another board. Its nothing but a money game for Intel to make money selling more chipsets.

AMD will have a single socket AM3 and all of the AM3 processors will fit that socket/that board. If you have a AM3 Athlon II X2 550 and want to upgrade to the Phenom II X4 965 when its released it will fit the same board. And as a bonus if you have a AM2+ board you can upgrade to a AM3 processor too with out replacing the board.

Thats the way it is.
 
Bodaggit23 said:
Not really, I just don't see it the same as you.
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Im running an intel rig here and i can see the daylight, intel is doing what amd did way back when, amd had socket A for ages, then came and had multiple sockets in a relatively short amount of time. With am2/+/am3 that has been eliminated, for the fact that on a 3 yr old $50 680g microatx motherboard, you can upgrade right now to the lastest phenom II if you wanted. Lets look at 3 yr old $50 intel boards shall we? Most dont even support the core 2 architecture, let alone the latest cpu's.
 
I'm suprised someone has not released a AM2+/3 board that has both DDR2 and DDR3 slots. No reason it would not work. You just could not run DDR3 memory if it had a AM2/+ processor. If you had a AM3 processor you could run either. Maybe both at the same time, but I dont know, that might freak out the memory controller.:eek:
 
StrangleHold said:
I'm suprised someone has not released a AM2+/3 board that has both DDR2 and DDR3 slots. No reason it would not work. You just could not run DDR3 memory if it had a AM2/+ processor. If you had a AM3 processor you could run either. Maybe both at the same time, but I dont know, that might freak out the memory controller.:eek:
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I dont know if it was an intel or an amd board, but im pretty sure i saw a board like that somewhere.
 
Intel did with DDR/DDR2 and later on with DDR2/DDR3 slots. Dont think AMD has, unless it was in the early Socket A/462 with SDRAM/DDR slots.

With AMD starting with the 754 it only had a single channel controller. 939 went to Dual Channel. AM2 went to DDR2. The AM3 with dual memory controllers DDR2/3 is the first one they could really do it.
 
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StrangleHold said:
Intel is going to have what 3 or 4 different sockets?
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I see three sockets, if you don't count the mobile socket, which you shouldn't because we're not discussing AMD's mobile sockets. And, the 1155/1156 will most likely share the same socket.

bomberboysk said:
Lets look at 3 yr old $50 intel boards shall we? Most dont even support the core 2 architecture, let alone the latest cpu's.
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There's lots of $50 Intel boards that will run Core 2 Quad / Core 2 Duo / Pentium Dual-core / Celeron.

The latest Intel cpu's are amazing, and they had to break the mold to do it. Who cares? Not me. I'll gladly pay the premium for the best. :good:
 
Bodaggit23 said:
There's lots of $50 Intel boards that will run Core 2 Quad / Core 2 Duo / Pentium Dual-core / Celeron.

The latest Intel cpu's are amazing, and they had to break the mold to do it. Who cares? Not me. I'll gladly pay the premium for the best. :good:
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Thats not what i said, i said a two to three year old $50 board, not a new board. Just shows how backward compatible amd is atm.
 
Bodaggit23 said:
A year and a half. Close enough.

The point is that it will run a variety of cpu's, unlike has been stated, even if you refuse to admit it.
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i never said that, what i said is intel has much less backward compatibility. CPU's should stay on one socket, intel is sealing a death warrant here with 3 different sockets imo.
 
bomberboysk said:
i never said that, what i said is intel has much less backward compatibility. CPU's should stay on one socket, intel is sealing a death warrant here with 3 different sockets imo.
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Shame on Intel for thinking outside the box and making the best cpu's available.
 
Bodaggit23 said:
Shame on Intel for thinking outside the box and making the best cpu's available.
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Its about time they did, when they tricked people back in the pentium 4/Pentium D days:rolleyes: For me its not even the fact they went from 775 to 1366, its that they cant keep a single socket, instead coming out with THREE sockets.
 
Good at side tracking the issue.

If you want to talk about older sockets.

754 processors fit the 754 socket.
939 processors fit the 939 socket.
AM2 processors fit the AM2 socket and AM2+ socket
AM2+ processors fit the AM2 and AM2+ socket
AM3 processors fit the AM2/AM2+ and AM3 socket

As you can see starting with the AM2 the Sockets and Processors became interchangable to a point. AM2 and AM2+ processors are being fazed out. That leaves only the AM3.

What ever turns out to be the lowest end AM3 to the highest end AM3 is going to fit (ONE) socket AM3. Intel is going to multi sockets depending on what processor you pick out. Its that simple!
 
So Intel will have 2 sockets, not 3, because the 775 is getting fazed out also.

Big deal. I just don't think it's enough for people to be upset about.
 
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