got them both running and so far like the kde version more, although it is so different it may take me a while to get used to, but it did instantly recognize my radeon 9600 so that's a plus so far, and i like the built in widgets, mainly the hardware monitor widget so i can easily select which things (currently ram cpu and temp) i want to monitor. but on a side note i noticed that my athlon xp was running at 105 farenheit (40.5 celcius), i know that's low for modern cpus but wasn't sure what to make of it for this old of one.