Mac book pro

It was $200 off all MacBook Pro's when I looked a few days ago.




I think you guys are living in the past, you can't get a comparable Windows laptop for half the price of a Mac.

13" MacBook Pro
2.9GHz Dual-Core i7
8GB DDR3-1600
750GB 5400RPM HD
Intel HD 4000
7 Hour Battery Life
$1,299

14" Sony VAIO Fit
2.0GHz Dual-Core i7
8GB DDR3-1600
750GB 5400RPM HD
Intel HD 4000
4 Hour Battery Life
$999 (Not really much cheaper considering for $300 more you get a 2.9Ghz vs a 2.0GHz CPU, and almost double the battery)

15" HP Spectre XT
1.9GHz Dual-Core i7
8GB DDR3-1600
500GB 5400RPM HD
Intel HD 4000
3h 45m Battery Life
$1,299

14" Dell XPS
2.0GHz Dual-Core i7
8GB DDR3-1600
500GB 5400RPM HD + 32GB SSD
nVidia GT630M
Unknown Battery
$1,199

As you can see, comparable laptops are very similar in prices to Mac's these days. People are stuck in the past where maybe 5 years ago Mac's were twice the price. Sure, you can get budget laptops for $499, but the specs are much worse, build quality is laughable, and they are bulky and heavy.

No one is living in the past, if you do not care about the aluminum body and Retina display a PC is easily half. My laptop is three years old and is still running like the day I bought it and my computer has easily seen more travel then almost anyone else on this forum excluding other military personnel.

As far as your Macbook Air comparison, it doesn't work since the Macbook Air just got updated and many models you listed have not seen updates. Lets jump back 3 months when a top of the line Macbook Air ($1,499) which is the same price as a top of the line Dell XPS (1,499) but yet the Dell had a i7 and a much higher resolution screen.

Edit: I am sorry I saw your comparing the Macbook Pro to the Hp Spectre, that is why I said Macbook Air cause the spectre is a ultra book so I assumed you meant Macbook Air.

On a further note Apple can only be some what competitive in hardware when they first release the models, when looking at the models a month or two before the next release they are really expensive. A good example is a base line Macbook Pro at $1,200 with a i5, 4 GB RAM and a 5400rpm 500 GB HDD. You know Apple is making a killing on those. Or who remembers how the last two years of the original Macbook's saw very minor updates yet where still being charged $999. Either Apple is taking pure advantage of the customer base or whoever is in charge of the buying department needs to be fired.
 
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No, the specs I listed are the $750 dollar one including 8GB RAM, 750GB HDD, but as I said it also comes with touch screen, DVD drive which the Apple doesn't, and yes, its nearly half the price. The value is only for brand junkies.
No for $750 the specs I listed are what you get, check out Sony's site for yourself: http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...&productId=8198552921666556943#specifications

Also, the 13" MBP DOES have a DVD drive.

No one is living in the past, if you do not care about the aluminum body and Retina display a PC is easily half. My laptop is three years old and is still running like the day I bought it and my computer has easily seen more travel then almost anyone else on this forum excluding other military personnel.

As far as your Macbook Air comparison, it doesn't work since the Macbook Air just got updated and many models you listed have not seen updates. Lets jump back 3 months when a top of the line Macbook Air ($1,499) which is the same price as a top of the line Dell XPS (1,499) but yet the Dell had a i7 and a much higher resolution screen.

Edit: I am sorry I saw your comparing the Macbook Pro to the Hp Spectre, that is why I said Macbook Air cause the spectre is a ultra book so I assumed you meant Macbook Air.

On a further note Apple can only be some what competitive in hardware when they first release the models, when looking at the models a month or two before the next release they are really expensive. A good example is a base line Macbook Pro at $1,200 with a i5, 4 GB RAM and a 5400rpm 500 GB HDD. You know Apple is making a killing on those. Or who remembers how the last two years of the original Macbook's saw very minor updates yet where still being charged $999. Either Apple is taking pure advantage of the customer base or whoever is in charge of the buying department needs to be fired.
The MacBook Air and XPS are not on the same line, the Air is an extremely thin and light ultrabook, the XPS is more inline with the traditional MacBook which is much more competitively priced for the specs than the Air. Besides, the Air was updated months ago which make it much more attractive option now, which is what we're debating.


I'm not trying to turn this into an Apple vs PC debate, my original post is just attempting to show you that the overused notion that Apple's cost twice as much is false. Sure, people can say "well I got my Asus laptop with similar specs for $700", but is that Asus laptop over an inch thick? Does it have only a 3 hour battery? There's more to laptops than just pure specs, which is why even PC ultrabooks are so much more expensive than your normal PC notebook.
 
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No for $750 the specs I listed are what you get, check out Sony's site for yourself: http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...&productId=8198552921666556943#specifications

Also, the 13" MBP DOES have a DVD drive.


The MacBook Air and XPS are not on the same line, the Air is an extremely thin and light ultrabook, the XPS is more inline with the traditional MacBook which is much more competitively priced for the specs than the Air. Besides, the Air was updated months ago which make it much more attractive option now, which is what we're debating.


I'm not trying to turn this into an Apple vs PC debate, my original post is just attempting to show you that the overused notion that Apple's cost twice as much is false. Sure, people can say "well I got my Asus laptop with similar specs for $700", but is that Asus laptop over an inch thick? Does it have only a 3 hour battery? There's more to laptops than just pure specs, which is why even PC ultrabooks are so much more expensive than your normal PC notebook.

Dell does make a XPS ultrabook with a screen that flips and turns it into a tablet which Apple offers nothing like it. and you still for some reason compared a Hp ultrabook to a Macbook pro which still makes no sense.

I get your not trying to start a flame war here, I get that and mean I am a Linux guy myself and I am not a fan of Windows either but to say Apple hardware is not in some ways over priced is just crazy. Like I said when they first come out it is some what competitive but a year later when Apple is securing the hardware at a much lower price yet there is not price drop you know it is pure taking advantage of the customer base. Tell me how in 2013 a baseline Macbook Pro with dual core i5, 4 GB of DDR3 memory, 5400 RPM 500 GB HDD with no Retina display should cost a consumer $1,200? This model is easily under 1k.

This notebook is worth $1,200 with a 1080p screen, quad core i7, dedicated gpu and 1TB HDD and a aluminum body with only measuring 1" thick.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...306788845&skuId=1306788845#tab=specifications

Look man you like Apple and that is cool, but you cannot deny Apple has hardware pricing issues especially when looking at a baseline Macbook Pro and it's cost.
 
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If you're buying a laptop and you're willing to blow an extra $400+ on the fact that it's thinner and has twice the battery, shame on you then lol....I get 5 hours battery and my laptop is about an inch thick (maybe 1/16th more :P) and that's the way it came...if the battery goes bad I'll upgrade it and spend $139 and get the larger one that can do up to 10 hours of battery...it makes the laptop about another inch or so bigger but it's worth the extra 5 hours...or I'll buy another two regular batteries (50 each) and still save money....I can handle a laptop being bigger then an inch if it means that a fan will fit inside and it won't overheat as fast :P (not saying apple has this issue). Apple is fine, you can't put Apple OS on a PC (excluding hacintosh) but you can put Windows on an apple (correct me if I'm wrong there) so get what you need man :P (OP doesn't appear to be here anymore so this is now a pissing match lol)
 
If you're buying a laptop and you're willing to blow an extra $400+ on the fact that it's thinner and has twice the battery, shame on you then lol....I get 5 hours battery and my laptop is about an inch thick (maybe 1/16th more :P) and that's the way it came...if the battery goes bad I'll upgrade it and spend $139 and get the larger one that can do up to 10 hours of battery...it makes the laptop about another inch or so bigger but it's worth the extra 5 hours...or I'll buy another two regular batteries (50 each) and still save money....I can handle a laptop being bigger then an inch if it means that a fan will fit inside and it won't overheat as fast :P (not saying apple has this issue). Apple is fine, you can't put Apple OS on a PC (excluding hacintosh) but you can put Windows on an apple (correct me if I'm wrong there) so get what you need man :P (OP doesn't appear to be here anymore so this is now a pissing match lol)
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You are right you can install Windows on a Apple products, I do much agree with you but the plus one is a partial for Apple to since if someone does not like Windows and want to use OS X I guess the extra $400 might be worth to some to use OS X.

Personally I would tell someone to save there money and just buy a PC and if they do not like Windows then install Linux.
 
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