My next build. Some questions

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bsmith6470

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Hey all. I have been planning out my next build. I figured after 5 years it was time. I have a few questions and am looking for advice on cooling.
I had someone tell me this build was overkill. Since I keep my rigs for a long time, and need allot of power, I do not agree.

This is what I am planning.

Case: Coolermaster HAF X Nvidia Edition
http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=3017

Mobo:Asus Maximus IV Extreme
http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=AoHE7iDJrYucOm0n&templete=2

CPU: Intel i7 2600K
http://www.intel.com/consumer/products/processors/specifications.htm?proc=52214

GPU: 2 Gigabyte GTX 560ti SOC in SLI mode
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3729#ov

RAM: 8GB Dominator GT
http://www.corsair.com/memory-3/dominator/dominator-gt.html?dir=desc

Also will be using a power supply in the 1000 watt range, but no less than 850.

This is my biggest sticking point right now on what to do with the coolers. If the heat spreaders on the Dominators really don't offer much in the way of extra cooling, can I remove them and still get decent heat control on the RAM? If this is the case I can go with the Noctua NH-D14. I could also do a smaller model from them.
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=34&lng=en

Otherwise I am looking at the Corsair H70 (with quieter fans)
http://www.corsair.com/cooling/hydro-series/corsair-hydro-seriestm-h70.html.

Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the H70 is? I assume I would have this computer for 5 years. Are there better options? I do not want to go full water cooling.

The rig will be running Windows 7 Professional 64-bit. I also will be running a RAID 1 for sure but may opt for a 0+1 setup. My main goal there is redundancy. I will not be using SSD.

There may be some very minor OC'ing. i.e., no more 4Ghz and some small tweaks to the vid card. Maybe. I do not OC RAM.

The hardware I have picked I am set on getting. I do not want to debate what pieces I have chose. I argued with people on my last build (my 4th) against their better judgment and it turned out to be the best computer I have had to date. I do my research and choose well performing, reliable components that play nice together to obtain a solid, stable rig.

I game, I do graphics work, I do photography work. I use Indesign, Photoshop, and Illustrator, I mulit-task while using these programs, so I need processing power and lots of RAM. I am coming from an AMD FX-60 w/2GB of Corsair XMS RAM (with the blinking lights) running an XFX 7800 GTX512, on an ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe MOBO and it is slow at times, especially in Indesgn interestingly enough.

Thanks a bunch for all your help. I truly appreciate it.
 
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since your not a big overclocker that mobo is a big overkill.that mobo is made for enthusiast that OC everything to the max and do alot of benching.but i do believe that the Asus Maximus(1155 socket) is the only Asus board with true x16/x16 all others i believe are x16/x8.so if thats the reason your getting the Maximus is for the x16/x16 and you want top performance than go for it,but you can save 80-180 on the mobo if you can deal with x16/x8.

ok, for the heatsink ill go for the H70,why? because IMO i think if cools better,last longer and is very small so you can have room to work.but in the end its your rig your choice and i believe your going to injoy it either way,GL Bro.
 
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tech savvy said:
since your not a big overclocker that mobo is a big overkill.that mobo is made for enthusiast that OC everything to the max and do alot of benching.but i do believe that the Asus Maximus(1155 socket) is the only Asus board with true x16/x16 all others i believe are x16/x8.so if thats the reason your getting the Maximus is for the x16/x16 and you want top performance than go for it,but you can save 80-180 on the mobo if you can deal with x16/x8.

ok, for the heatsink ill go for the H70,why? because IMO i think if cools better,last longer and is very small so you can have room to work.but in the end its your rig your choice and i believe your going to injoy it either way,GL Bro.
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Isn't Asus Maximus support dual at x8?
Would it be better to get $180 mobo, and save $180, then get SLi GTX 570 instead of GTX 560Ti
 
daisymtc said:
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Isn't Asus Maximus support dual at x8?
Would it be better to get $180 mobo, and save $180, then get SLi GTX 570 instead of GTX 560Ti
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You are correct. I double checked at Asus and the Maximus is indeed x8 in SLI.

I think I may go to the Asus P67 Deluxe board or possibly a Gigabyte. I am trying my best to stay at or below $2000, so I will stay with the 560ti SLI setup. If I had money to burn, I would just get 2 ARES in SLI.:eek:

Thanks for your input. I still would like more comments about the coolers and if anyone knows how important the heat spreaders on the Dominator RAM is.
 
bsmith6470 said:
I still would like more comments about the coolers and if anyone knows how important the heat spreaders on the Dominator RAM is.
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If you need to have the RAM at that speed you do need extra cooling for them. I don't see the need for Ram that fast. I would get a pair of 1600 CAS 7 With smaller heat spreaders and call it good.
 
daisymtc said:
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Isn't Asus Maximus support dual at x8?
Would it be better to get $180 mobo, and save $180, then get SLi GTX 570 instead of GTX 560Ti
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i would go with the gtx580 and sli down the road when in need.gtx580 will power everything out now with no problem.

i believe its x16/x16, at asus site i think they did a typo. this is what it says at asus site, single @x16, dual @x8, triple @x8, x16, x16 how can it have triple @ x16/x16/x8 but daul @ x16/x8? makes no sence.

edit:Gigabyte would be a very good choice,i would get the UD7 is a great board and i know it has true x16/x16 support.it dont have EFI BIOS features but i heard that a later BIOS update will fix that.
 
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Ok guys. I appreciate your input. Here is the final build. Still not sure what to do about cooling. The Coolermaster V6GT and the Corsair H70 are leading the pack.

Anyway here it is:

CPU: i7 2600k
GPU: Gigabyte GV-N570D5-13I-B GTX 570 (2 for SLI) did more research and 2 560's were coming up as a bad option. Thank you! I figure for $200 more over a single 580 was worth it to me.
MB: Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7 (rock solid AND x16/x16 SLI WOOF!! I like it better than the Maximus IV)
Memory: Corsair Dominator 8GB Kit CMT8GX3M2A2000C9
Case: Coolermaster HAF X nVidia model
OS: Windows 7 Prof 64-bit
HD for boot: WD 640GB Black (2 for RAID not sure if I going for 0 or 1 yet)
Gaming/Graphics HD: WD 600GB VelociRaptor
PS: SilverStone Strider SST ST1200 1200W

Most of you will think this build is overkill. Not for MY needs. I try to pick the best I can afford that gives me a mega rock solid stable rig that I can tweak some if I want. I also tend to keep my rigs for around 5 years. Look at it this way; overkill now, it is still pretty decent in 3 years, and about out of gas in 5.
 
bsmith6470 said:
Ok guys. I appreciate your input. Here is the final build. Still not sure what to do about cooling. The Coolermaster V6GT and the Corsair H70 are leading the pack.

Anyway here it is:

CPU: i7 2600k
GPU: Gigabyte GV-N570D5-13I-B GTX 570 (2 for SLI) did more research and 2 560's were coming up as a bad option. Thank you! I figure for $200 more over a single 580 was worth it to me.
MB: Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7 (rock solid AND x16/x16 SLI WOOF!! I like it better than the Maximus IV)
Memory: Corsair Dominator 8GB Kit CMT8GX3M2A2000C9
Case: Coolermaster HAF X nVidia model
OS: Windows 7 Prof 64-bit
HD for boot: WD 640GB Black (2 for RAID not sure if I going for 0 or 1 yet)
Gaming/Graphics HD: WD 600GB VelociRaptor PS: SilverStone Strider SST ST1200 1200W

Most of you will think this build is overkill. Not for MY needs. I try to pick the best I can afford that gives me a mega rock solid stable rig that I can tweak some if I want. I also tend to keep my rigs for around 5 years. Look at it this way; overkill now, it is still pretty decent in 3 years, and about out of gas in 5.
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that is going to be a great rig there no dout.i would drop the 640GB Black HDD and get a 60-120gb SSD for your OS,and drop the velociraptor and get 2x WD Black 1TB and raid for your games/media.
 
tech savvy said:
that is going to be a great rig there no dout.i would drop the 640GB Black HDD and get a 60-120gb SSD for your OS,and drop the velociraptor and get 2x WD Black 1TB and raid for your games/media.
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I have thought about SSD, but am concerned about the longevity of the drives. I can't afford to have downtime. How well do the SSD's work in a RAID 1 environment? I really want redundancy in my new rig.
 
bsmith6470 said:
I have thought about SSD, but am concerned about the longevity of the drives. I can't afford to have downtime. How well do the SSD's work in a RAID 1 environment? I really want redundancy in my new rig.
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SSD's has a lifespan of 2mil hours,3x as long as a HDD.a new SSD is faster than 2x WD black 640gb in raid(you would need to raid 4 plus HDD to meet the SSD speed).you wouldent need to raid the SSD's there already super fast,but if you decide to i dont think that raid would lower its lifespan.you can get a 60gb SSD(around $110-160) for your OS, and get 2 WD Black 1TB ($89 each) raid them for games/media.
 
tech savvy said:
SSD's has a lifespan of 2mil hours,3x as long as a HDD.a new SSD is faster than 2x WD black 640gb in raid(you would need to raid 4 plus HDD to meet the SSD speed).you wouldent need to raid the SSD's there already super fast,but if you decide to i dont think that raid would lower its lifespan.you can get a 60gb SSD(around $110-160) for your OS, and get 2 WD Black 1TB ($89 each) raid them for games/media.
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Which do you recommend? I am looking at the OCZ, but they are $200.
 
I am hearing allot of good things about these Samsung Spinpoint F3 drives. If they are that good, I could build a RAID 1+0 for $200 or less, depending what size drive I use. Most likely a 250GB as I have other drives for games, storage and all my graphics programs, i.e., CS5.

Thoughts on these Spinpoints?
 
bsmith6470 said:
Otherwise I am looking at the Corsair H70 (with quieter fans)
http://www.corsair.com/cooling/hydro-series/corsair-hydro-seriestm-h70.html.

Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the H70 is? I assume I would have this computer for 5 years. Are there better options? I do not want to go full water cooling.
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Post up what you find for fans, I can only see you getting either bigger fans and engineer it to fit or get slower fans and I think both would limit the air movement to optimize that cooler. I was looking for the same thing when I got mine.

The warranty is 2 years from corsair for what it is worth I know coolers are expensive but if you get 4 years out of it you did well. My biggest concern is the properites of the material in the cooler maintaining its cooling properties after 100 of thousands heating and cooling cycles.
 
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