Need some advice on my first pc build

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Dave79

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I decided to build a pc from ground up. Two main reasons being 1. I've always wanted to do it and 2. I can afford a much better computer if I buy it piece by piece (I can't save money worth a shit). So I went to NewEgg.com and pick out all the components. Now not knowing shit about building a computer a got two questions. 1. How many watts of power do I need and 2. Looking to build the best computer I can for the least amount of money can you guy recommend some components that will give me the same amount of performance or maybe a little less for less money? The bill for what I've pick out is $2,491.84 before shipping so it needs to come down a bit. But I still want a sickass pc!

So here is what I have picked

Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+) VH6000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - $187.99

GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - $84.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133056

XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB XXX Edition 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported - $437.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128392

Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 Media Center Kit Dual TV Tuner 1213 PCI-Express x1 Interface - $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116036

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ965FBGMBOX - $179.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9S-4GBRL x 4 sticks - $759.96
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231313

Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136514

Pioneer Black Blu-ray Disc/DVD/CD Writer SATA Model BDR-205BKS - OEM - $199.99

HP 24X Multiformat DVD Burner Black SATA Model 1270i LightScribe Support - $30.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827140041

ENCORE ENLWI-NX2 PCI Wireless Adapter - $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833180058

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM - $19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100008

Tuniq CR-PRO120-BK 120mm Magnetic Fluid Dynamic Bearing Propeller 120 CPU Cooler - $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835154009

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM - $179.99

Everything is on newegg.com if you need to check out stats

PLEASE HELP ME!
 
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The majority of your components are very good, but motherboard might need an update. Feels a little on the low-end side, compared to all the other stuff you've picked.
 
karder said:
The majority of your components are very good, but motherboard might need an update. Feels a little on the low-end side, compared to all the other stuff you've picked.
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I agree with this guy ^

As for the power supply, you'll probably be good with a 600 watt or higher power supply. If I were you, I would get rid of the TV tuner and get the better motherboard. And do you REALLY need ultimate? For a hundred dollars less, you can get the basic version and you can probably buy a better CPU or some other component with that money.
Do you know the speed of the hard drive you're getting? (in RPM)
I can't seem to figure out what the speed is.
 
And also, do you really need to BURN blu-ray discs? The technology is just going to get better and cheaper as time goes on. Maybe you should wait to get a drive that burns, and just get one that reads blu-ray discs. Besides, blank blu-ray discs are really expensive. I would definitely wait a year or two to buy one that burns.
 
Subtract Pioneer Black Blu-ray Disc/DVD/CD Writer SATA Model BDR-205BKS - OEM - $199.99

Add ASUS Blu-ray Drive SATA Model BC-08B1ST - $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135203

Subtract Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM - $179.99

Add Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM - $104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

Add Broadway Com Corp Okia-black-650 650W ATX SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply - $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817162014

Total was - $2,491.84 Total now - $2,371.83


Still need some advice on a better motherboard and if there is a better cpu that is not to much more?
 
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Drop the $759 of memory and get 2 x 2GB sticks for $110 give or take at the same speed. Then use the $600 you saved from something more important, or go i7-920 and a good mobo with 6 gigs. With the money you save on the memory you can get a 5970, i7, 6g and a decent mobo - your mobo and processor costs.
 
Don't mind downgrading ram some. Actually probably a really good idea. Don't want to downgrade CPU though and if I'm not mistaken the i7-920 runs at 2.66GHz witch is slower then the Phenom II X4 965 witch runs at 3.4GHz. Like I said I'm new to all this so if I have this wrong please let me know.
 
it's not all about clockspeed. a pentium 4 will run at 2.8ghz but a 2ghz core 2 duo will blow it out of the water. it's all about architechture.
 
Subtract - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9S-4GBRL x 4 sticks - $759.96

Add Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1800 (PC3 14400) Desktop Memory Model KHX1800C8D3K2/4G - $289.98

Total Was - $2,371.83 Total Now - $1,893.85

Still need help with a better motherboard.
 
So new setup looks like this.


Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+) VH6000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - $187.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133056

ASUS Crosshair III Formula AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131392

XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB XXX Edition 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported - $437.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128392

Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 Media Center Kit Dual TV Tuner 1213 PCI-Express x1 Interface - $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815116036

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ965FBGMBOX - $179.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103727

Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1800 (PC3 14400) Desktop Memory Model KHX1800C8D3K2/4G - $289.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104135

Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136514

ASUS Blu-ray Drive SATA Model BC-08B1ST - $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135203

HP 24X Multiformat DVD Burner Black SATA Model 1270i LightScribe Support - $30.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827140041

ENCORE ENLWI-NX2 PCI Wireless Adapter - $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833180058

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM - $19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835100008

Tuniq CR-PRO120-BK 120mm Magnetic Fluid Dynamic Bearing Propeller 120 CPU Cooler - $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835154009

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM - $104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116754

Broadway Com Corp Okia-black-650 650W ATX SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply - $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817162014


Price now at $2,008.85

Still open to any suggestions.
 
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Dave79 said:
Don't mind downgrading ram some. Actually probably a really good idea. Don't want to downgrade CPU though and if I'm not mistaken the i7-920 runs at 2.66GHz witch is slower then the Phenom II X4 965 witch runs at 3.4GHz. Like I said I'm new to all this so if I have this wrong please let me know.
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Do some research before you buy the 965.
 
Gabe63 said:
Do some research before you buy the 965.
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i7 920 over 965 anyday... Better overclocking capability with turbo boost it goes over 2.66 anyway. Not to mention hyperthreading. Just different technology... You still should be fine with the 965 though.
 
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Subtract AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ965FBGMBOX - $179.99

Add Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor - $288.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202

Subtract ASUS Crosshair III Formula AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - $199.99

Add ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - $159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157163

Subtract Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1800 (PC3 14400) Desktop Memory Model KHX1800C8D3K2/4G - $289.98

Add Kingston HyperX 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C8D3K3/6GX - $174.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104116

Total Was - $2,008.85 Total Now - $1,862.87

Keep it coming guys my goal is to have the most insane computer I can get for about $2000 give or take so lets make it better
 
yomama07024 said:
If I were you, I would get rid of the TV tuner and get the better motherboard.
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NO WAY MAN.

If you ever had a 2 monitor setup with a TV Tuner - you'd change that. I used to have the TV to the left of my PC - whre I had to turn my head all the time when I heard something I was interested in. I picked up a $25.00 TV tuner and dropped a splitter from my tuner box - and couldn't imagine being without the tuner again.

I can watch a ballgame - and play a video game - or work on productivity software at the same time. I can set the volume for web vs TV tuner app at whatever I want on the sound window.

TV Tuner = Must See TV :good:

I would get the 5850 over the 5870 though. Paying the highest dollar for the highest end technology which is " a little faster " than it's counterpart is against my DNA. But I'd never build a $2,000 dollar PC either - so maybe my opinion gets overruled... lol

One thing to add
If you have a Local Microcenter you can shave $80 bucks off your CPU price for the i7 920. Check the drop down menu at top of page to see if you have a local store near you. Not available to ship though.
 
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