New AMD Socket?

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Is AMD planning on releasing a new socket within the next year and a half or so? I heard a rumor about something possibly called the M2 socket on another forum but was unable to confirm that. Does anyone know anything about it?

I will possibly be upgrading from a socket 754 AMD 64 3200+ to a 939 AMD 64 X2 4400+ sometime in the near future and I want to time my move right so that I can get the best price but also not get shafted and locked into a socket with imminent EOL (happened to me with the 754).

Any thoughts?


-Ian
 
Xycron said:
Yes its true it's comeout out, If you use the forum search feture there are tons of thread's about it.
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Well I guess the reason I posted was more to find out if I should wait until the M2 comes out which would bring on a theoretical price drop for the X2 line (at least thats what I'm hoping) and perform better for all the basic things you would buy a dual core processor for - multitasking like a mother with a bit of gaming thrown in on the side. I am also concerned about the expansion limitations this will place on me as AMD develops bigger and better things than socket 939.

I'm looking for advice on how I should think about proceeding.

Thanks

-Ian
 
That's the exact same thing that I ran into. I was going to buy an awesome gaming rig until I heard about the new socket 940's. Right now it is codenamed "AM2." It will feature most of the CPU's that they have now but with 940 pins instaed of 939. I'm waiting that way I can get the best tech for my buck... at least until the bugs are worked out:P
 
Ok, basically yes the new processors will be 940 sockets, although a different configuration than current socket 940s (not sure why though). Yes, hopefully that will bring in a lower price for the dual cores, but on the other hand, they are relatively cheap right now (the AMD x2 line gets about 10%-30% more performance per dollar than the Intel dual core processors). And on the same note, once the M2's and Conroes (Intel's new processors) come out, there will be a newer set coming out too. But, if the money really isn't there now, yes it should bring a lower price after some time.
 
Aren't these sockets comming in and out awfully fast? It seemed like the SocketA was around for a good while, then 754 came and died. 939 came and is soon to die? I mean I've already seen 940 on newegg, just never looked into it farther.
 
The_Other_One said:
Aren't these sockets comming in and out awfully fast? It seemed like the SocketA was around for a good while, then 754 came and died. 939 came and is soon to die? I mean I've already seen 940 on newegg, just never looked into it farther.
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Thats what I'm getting at - I don't want to invest in a motherboard and processor combo without some upgrading security at least on the motherboard's end. I suppose I got my moneys worth out of the 754 I am using now - I built the machine about 3 years ago, though it seems like I just built it........
 
GamerGuy8899 said:
I'm waiting that way I can get the best tech for my buck... at least until the bugs are worked out:P
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By the time you wait, they will have a new socket out, this is an endless (supposedly) cycle, you just have to figure out what is the best time to buy. I wonder when we will get to Thz. :)
 
HAHA this is surly an endless cycle for CPU... just like how intel is doing it... Right now were at 90nm.. this year is gonna be 60nm till 2008 where the 45nm sneaks in....
 
I heard a rumor about something possibly called the M2
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Hehe, its no secret, it been on the amd roadmap for a while

M2 comes out which would bring on a theoretical price drop for the X2 line
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There will be price shift as newbuilds move to X2's on the M2 and AMD shift production to the M2 chips. You will see 939 price droping to encourage migration. But dont expect the bottom to drop out, 939 will be around for sometime to come

(the AMD x2 line gets about 10%-30% more performance per dollar than the Intel dual core processors)
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The only thing worse that bull$hit is second hand bull$shit. ;)

Aren't these sockets comming in and out awfully fast? It seemed like the SocketA was around for a good while, then 754 came and died. 939 came and is soon to die? I mean I've already seen 940 on newegg, just never looked into it farther.
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Yeah they sure move fast, but some feel the 754 was a transistion technology. Manufacturers do it all the time, like intel moving to 65nm cores cedar mill, when conroe is just around the corner (well not the best example)

By the time you wait, they will have a new socket out,
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too trie the socket f is on the road map, sporting 1207 pins. There is always and will always be a new and better technology just around the corner.

this year is gonna be 60nm
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I assume you meant 65nm;)
 
the thing is, 939 will be (although soon to be phased out) able to accomodate 99 percent of all your needs for if i had to guess...2 years. and yes, the 940 socket as some know it will be a different configuration, so the 940 socket will be an even SHORTER lived line. here we are, drooling over the prospect of having a socket 940 processor, and AMD is already on to "bigger and better" things. i only say that because based on some articles ive read about the M2, there wont be much difference between the ones that are already on the market and those that are only concepts. there is no way to completely get the best deal on something...you just have to hope you made the right decision. if you ask me, (partly because i own one) a 754 is just fine.
 
apj101 said:
done, no reconsideration required
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Then I'm starting to wonder what you define as bullshit, because the X2 certainly doesn't seem to fall into that catagory in my book. It DOES outperform Pentium equivalents in almost every test - the benchmarks show it. Even the 4200+, the lower end model competes with, and outperforms the Extreme Edition 840 in several instances; the 4800+ destroys everything else just about across the board, while also producing less heat and consuming less power. To sum it up AMD outperformed Pentium in this round, and thats not bullshit.

Being opinionated is fine, and having your camp is also fine, but I didn't start this thread as a flaming arena and as a moderator you should show responsibility and keep such comments to yourself.
 
So there is a socket f coming out now? Damn, I'm no rich kid so it's hard for me to upgrade. I've been wanting my dad to approve of me upgrading for about 3 years! My sig shows it! How long do you think the 940's will stay in style?? I hate my computer right now... but then again it's so hard to go buy a $1,500+ computer when something 2 months later is the new thing to have... Ugh! Love technology, hate its price :(
 
GamerGuy8899 said:
So there is a socket f coming out now? Damn, I'm no rich kid so it's hard for me to upgrade. I've been wanting my dad to approve of me upgrading for about 3 years! My sig shows it! How long do you think the 940's will stay in style?? I hate my computer right now... but then again it's so hard to go buy a $1,500+ computer when something 2 months later is the new thing to have... Ugh! Love technology, hate its price :(
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The way it looks now, I think it would still be a good bet to invest in socket 939... its just the general vibe I've gotten from friends and coworkers. I don't think the EOL for that chip will be coming too soon for comfort, after all it is AMD's standard chipset right now and a lot of hardware "stuff" has been made with it in mind. You can upgrade your setup without dumping rediculous ammounts of money into it, especially with a versatile caliber like the 939.

Of course I say this after I spent untold millions last month on a BFG 7800GTX, 2 250GB WD SATA disks, Praetorian case, and a new cooling system to go with it.:rolleyes:

At any rate you could probably put something together that isn't going to break the bank using the advice from the people in this thread. When you are ready, take a look at newegg.com and zipzoomfly.com - I have always found that they have the best prices, personally.
 
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