New Gaming PC

i compared prices and it would only be like an extra 80 bucks on newegg...unless im missing something. now is there any benefit in going with nvidia instead...it seems more popular is there a reason for that? or do the pros go with radeon

Radeon just came out with a card like this month that eats Nvidia in its cereal, lol, its the series that they are suggesting to you. The double version of that card just came out like yesterday and is the fastest card in the world.
 
^ Yep what he said. Here's how I see it

HD4870X2 > GTX280 > HD4870 > 9800GX2 > 9800GTX+ > HD4850 > 9800GTX
 
^ Yep what he said. Here's how I see it

HD4870X2 > GTX280 > HD4870 > 9800GX2 > 9800GTX+ > HD4850 > 9800GTX

sorry i left work to workout and just got home...is it worth the extra 80 bucks to get the HD4870 rather than the 9800GTX? Will I notice a difference? The HD4870 is like 280 and the GTX is like 199.
 
is there that big of a difference between the GTX and the HD4870. You said it blows it out of the water, so will I be happy I spent the extra 80 bucks to get the HD4870?
 
awsome thank you. Another quick question. I pretty much decided to go with the HD4870 since after a rebate it is only like 60 dollars more, but when i search for it on newegg there is like 5 brands that make it...is there a specific brand that is better...video cards are a little more confusing than the rest of the stuff.
 
awsome thank you. Another quick question. I pretty much decided to go with the HD4870 since after a rebate it is only like 60 dollars more, but when i search for it on newegg there is like 5 brands that make it...is there a specific brand that is better...video cards are a little more confusing than the rest of the stuff.

Yeah, video cards and CPUs are pretty confusing. Basically, the card is made by Radeon. Radeon then sells its cards to other companies, who either just put a new sticker on it, or as is usually the case, will overclock the card, and do various upgrades on the card like improving the cooling, etc. Also, different companies include different bundles. Some cards come with games and a few extra wires and connectors. Others have warranties. Some companies have better warranties than others, and some have better bundles than others.

So pretty much what you need to do now is compare what the different companies have done to the card itself, what is included in the bundle, and what the warranties are, and then pick what you like the best, and as always if you have questions, just let us know.
 
Also, when the card is first released, you wont really see any major changes to the card, because Radeon doesnt let them tweak it at first. But after a month or so (maybe more, usually not less) you will see Radeon loosen up their regulations, and thats when you will see extreme overclocked cards, extra onboard RAM, and different variations of that nature start to come around.
 
thanks for all the advice. I think I have two last questions.
Will http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182030 be able to power the video card? or do I need a better power supply.

And last: there havent been any known issues running WoW with the HD4870 have there? I looked around and didnt really see anything, but i wanted to make sure the pros havent heard anything.

Sorry one more...will I notice a difference in the 3.0ghz duo and the 2.5 or whatever it was quad?
 
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I'm not too good on PSUs, I'm not sure if 35 amp on the 12v rail is enough. It prolly is, but I dont actually know.

There arent any that I've heard of, and I doubt that you will have any. lol, just some really high FPSs
 
I know what fps is haha thanks though. and thanks for trying to answer. hopefully somone may know the answers.
 
Well one processor, is very outdated, and cannot play much games. The newest one is the Pentium 4.

Well the Quad Processor "processes" information much faster then a dual core. If you want to I can fix that build and downgrade to a dual-core for you if you want to.

The Processor in my sig (CPU), is a dual core and can handle games very well. AND If you want I can get you the links for the computer in my signature. It only cost me 304.00, and with the Operating System 404.00 which leaves you plenty of money for upgrades



Hey, can you send me those links??
 
I would not pay for that standard alienware. You could easily build that with the parts it has in it for much, much less. Plus, the CPU isn't that great for gaming, and you would want 4gb of ram instead of 2. I wouldn't waste extra money on that if I were you.
 
Vista vs. XP: The correct answer in this situation is always XP, no matter the circumstances, unless the question is "which OS is more effective at making my computer unuseable?". Professional is better than Home because Home can't deal with multiple CPU cores very well.

Dual vs. quad: If you were using this system for SETI@home, Folding@home, Prime95, CAD rendering, digital video compression, webserving, etc., then you'd want to go with quad. When it comes to games, however, you're better off with a faster-clocked dual-core system.

ATI vs. nVidia: In the previous two generations of graphics cards ("Radeon HD 2k vs. GeForce 8k" and "Radeon HD 3k vs. GeForce 9k"), green team (nVidia) has soundly thrashed red team (ATI). In the current generation, however, ATI seems to have finally gotten their sh!t together, and is now getting nVidia's nose more than a bit bloody. No matter who holds the performance crown, though, WoW does not require a very high-end graphics card and neither will Warhammer, so you're probably looking at either the HD 4850 or GTX 260. Given that the ATI part is about $100 cheaper, that's the one I'd pick. As for manufacturers, I absolutely love Sapphire. They make high-quality stuff at insanely low prices.

Intel vs. AMD: Again, if you were using this system for SETI@home, Folding@home, Prime95, CAD rendering, digital video compression, webserving, etc., Intel easily wins this round. Games, however, especially high-end ones like Crysis and Unreal Tournament 3, are more taxing on the video card(s) than on anything else. I suspect that they will run flawlessly even on a humble Athlon 64 X2 5400+ Black Edition, though if anyone has the benchmarks to prove me wrong, they are free to do so. And if this suspicion is wrong, and if you plan on playing such games in the first place, then my next suggestion would be the 3.0 ghz Wolfdale (E8400), which will chew up Crysis, spit it out, and piss on its grave. Note: if you go with Intel, be sure to get a motherboard that supports DDR2-1066. There's no excuse for limiting yourself to DDR2-800, and DDR3 is overpriced jank.

Asus, once the go-to company for motherboards, seems to be getting complacent and incompetent as of late. I'll let you know when a real leader re-emerges, but the current companies vying for the throne seem to be MSI, Gigabyte, and Biostar. You could also take the path less traveled and go with Tyan; they're not known for gaming, but their track record of reliability is unmatched.

I feel the need to pimp out Excelstor as the up-and-coming king of hard drive companies. They are offering very good drives at extremely aggressive prices. You can get 500GB of SATA RAID goodness for ~$100.
 
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Thanks a ton for the breakdown Nigouki. So even though vista has DX10 XP is better with DX9; I didn't realize vista was that bad. I had heard that most of the complaints about Vista had been fixed.

Do you have a suggestion on the motherboard?

And do you think the PSU I linked up there would run the HD4870?
 
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