New rig

mrjack

mrjack

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I started thinking about getting a new computer as my current one isn't really up to par, and I ain't too picky about performance as long as it works. :P

The thing is I have mostly new parts in my computer which I can use in the new computer, all parts except CPU, RAM, mobo.

One requirement though is that the motherboard has 1 PCI-E 16x and 1 AGP8X slot, cause I ain't gonna have the money to buy a new GPU and the current one is the only decent thing I have, so the X800GTO's staying. For a while...

The stores I can use are, both links are in english.
Multitronic
Digicomp

I've done a bit of research and it seems like motherboards based on the ULi AP9507A (M1695/M1567) chipset, are the only ones with fully functioning PCI-E 16X and AGP8X. The only mobo with that chipset which can be found at Multitronic is the ASROCK S939 M1695 8CH SATA2 RAID PCI-E16.

But I've heard people talk trash about ASROCK motherboards, so I ain't too sure about getting one. Anyway, here's a list of parts I was thinking about getting.

AMD ATHLON 64 X2 3800+ S939 BOX
ASROCK S939 M1695 8CH SATA2 RAID PCI-E16
Kingston 2GB PC3200 DDR NON-ECC CL3 DIMM KIT (to use in Dual Channel)

The ideal budget would be below 600€. And I know the current prices here are very high, but that's the "beauty" of my plan. I intend to buy a few months after AM2 is released, as the prices on older technology is going to go down. I'm gonna try to get a summerjob so that I can get a part of the money I'm gonna use and then the rest from my savings.

Feel free to suggest other parts, instead of the ones I have listed etc. And I also need a new case.

WHEN LINKING TO A PRODUCT THAT'S AT MULTITRONIC, OPEN THE PRODUCT IN A TAB/WINDOW OF IT'S OWN FROM THE LISTS WITH THE PARTS, OTHERWISE THE LINK TO THE PART MIGHT NOT SHOW UP!
 
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I'm not sure if you know this mrjack, but that motherboard is supposed to support some sort of daughtercard for AM2 support. I'm not sure if the card is even going to be released, but with AM2 coming out tuesday and all...
 
Yeah, but I'm not gonna buy anything before it starts getting cheaper after the AM2 release. Like a month or two later, just wanna know right know what's worth buying.
 
Praetor said:
Im slightly confused ... for a [comparatively] massive budget like that you could get something like
Now let alone considering price drops in the future
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Just to mention, that Praetor's prices are in UK Pounds £ instead of USD $. Just to prevent confusion :P

BTW: Sounds like a nice setup Prae and the prices in Finland should not be much different from the UK....but it's way over his budget of less than 600 Euros.

Live mid-market rates as of 2006.05.30 21:46:53 UTC.

588.00 GBP = 860.849 EUR
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JAN :D
 
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The prices there look good. But Kingston seems to run well on Asus boards over other brands like the Corsair xms series. But then I've never had to spend over $180-U.S. on any cpu when ready to order. About how much is that when converted into Euros? For the dual core model that is less then $15- added onto that price when ordered from mwave for the Atholon XP3200 in late 2004. When the Opterons come down a cpu/board bundle will work with probably 2gb of DDR2.
 
Fixed the £ thing hehe forgot to add £ support in my program ;)

BTW: Sounds like a nice setup Prae and the prices in Finland should not be much different from the UK....but it's way over his budget of less than 600 Euros.
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Gah bloody hell what's with the zillions of currencies :P

But Kingston seems to run well on Asus boards over other brands like the Corsair xms series
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? XMS are tested on ASUS boards for qualification purposes (although i disagree with them using the P4C800 ... woulda been better to use a i848 or i865 board but im sure they have their reasons)

A bit more and a bit less performance ... but at least you avoid the problem of ASRock boards (which rightly deserve their reputation)

If another £50 is doable then

Here's an Intel alternative

As a side note, what will you be using the box for?
 
Praetor, maybe should should have used the links to the shops that I can use. :P I gave links to 'em in the first post.

And preferrably I would like to get a setup which features an AGP8X and PCI-E 16X slot as I wouldn't want to sell my current card as I just got it, a few weeks ago.
 
Hehe ill have a look at the stores when I get to my other connection; they're firewalled here :P
 
mrjack said:
Praetor, maybe should should have used the links to the shops that I can use. :P I gave links to 'em in the first post.

And preferrably I would like to get a setup which features an AGP8X and PCI-E 16X slot as I wouldn't want to sell my current card as I just got it, a few weeks ago.
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As I mentioned earlier you would most likely have to go with a S754 board in order to have both PCI-E and AGP available. You can find S939 boards with an AGP slot still being sold because AGP will still be here for awhile at ths point. A couple of years however the availabilty of any new board using AGP will of course be non existent unless specially ordered for some business. You might as well plan on having that as a spare case with a newer S939 board put in it and save for a PCI-E card to go into the next build.
 
I was wondering what the more "commercial" equivalent of the Opteron 148 would be as in some benchmarks it has been referred to as the "Athlon 64 FX-51/Opteron 148". Is this correct and how would it perform when compared to a AMD ATHLON 64 3800+ Venice 2.4Ghz?

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This article refers to the Opteron 148 as FX-51/Opteron 148.
 
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That artticle was from 2003. The 100 series Opterons generally edge the FX models for stability rather then just performance values. The gamers love the Opteron 165 for it's OCing capability however. The one I am currently looking at for the upgrade is the 2.6ghz Opteron 185. The remaining 200 series models are Socket 940 not 939. Another thing that will determine performance value between the two would be the application. Mainly Opterons are intended for server/workstation setups like seen with businesses.
 
Yeah, and luckily I do quite a bit of 3D modeling and rendering with Autodesk Maya 7.0. It's a bit more expensive than the Athlon 64 3700+ though, but I've heard it's a very good overclocker.

These are the ones I'm currently looking at.
Opteron 148
Athlon 64 3700+
 
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PC eye said:
The 3700+ is the next to highest single cored model namely the single cored 3800+ with the next being the lowest dual cored model the 3800+ X2. It's going to more expensive then many X2 models due to it also being a higher end dual core model. Gee? Only $1,999 U.S, for Autodesk Maya 7.0.? http://www.clubmac.com/clubmac/shop/detail~dpno~192703.asp
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Yeah, the prices on their software is outrageous. Like they say, it only hurts once. :P
 
It will hurt alright! For that price you can have three or four OSs with a software loaded machine. You could even the latest model video card with several games added onto that. Let's see... 3 or 4 hard drives parted out with a pair of Linux distros going with 3.1, 9X-ME, NT 4.0, 2K, and XP including... blah, blah, blah, .....
 
But it's a great piece of software, it includes tools for rendering, modeling, animating, simulating cloth, water and particles etc. It's got everything.
 
Too bad you couldn't go for a slightly earlier version or wait until the price drops on it. Software at that high a price ie generally for those into advertising with animated graphics, software design, or something along those lines. With Vista coming out soon you'll probably that price drop somewhat in the following months. That would be one way to save a little cash.
 
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