The Opteron 165 model is the OCer's choice there for gaming as well as cranking things up. I hear this often while taking a serious look at the 185 for the next build here to run a stable 2.6ghz cpu for multitasking where background services and apps alike will be able to run while gaming or running video capture devices. But I'm after the higher default not OCed speeds there. For a good work horse type case the Opterons are the ones to look at. And the prices will be seeing a good drop very shortly when the new Intel model comes out.