ChrisUlrich
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Buddy is building a new PC. Is there any type of price drop or new processors coming out anytime soon? Anything comparable to the i7 920s?
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Twist86
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Nah since I7 is the king the only drop will be a new I7 (low watt versions) which I don't see happening since AMD isn't even close to bringing out a competitor.
I would get a Phenom II X4 set up....nice fast and overclocks well....I7 is nice but at the end of the day unless your doing high-end CAD/Graphics etc your not getting your money out of it. Spend the cash saved on a GTX 295 or SLI 4890s or something.
I would get a Phenom II X4 set up....nice fast and overclocks well....I7 is nice but at the end of the day unless your doing high-end CAD/Graphics etc your not getting your money out of it. Spend the cash saved on a GTX 295 or SLI 4890s or something.
Fatback
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I agree with you 100% there is not much one can do to put the i7 to its full potential it is just to much of a CPU for a regular day to day gamer or internet user. AMD has the best bang for your buck and AMD has always been known to perform better in games. As of right now I would never build another Intel computer for myself unless something changes the new i5's sound promising.
Microcenter is the only price drop I'm aware of - but you need to buy at their retail locations to get the price. $199.00
I don't see Intel having any reason to drop their prices - they are selling plenty at 279 - and right now AMD doesn't have a processor that can knock it from king of the hill. ( outside of i7's with a higher clock speed with a considerably higher price )
I don't see Intel having any reason to drop their prices - they are selling plenty at 279 - and right now AMD doesn't have a processor that can knock it from king of the hill. ( outside of i7's with a higher clock speed with a considerably higher price )
2048Megabytes
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The Intel i7 series are powerful processors but they are a lot more expensive than the AMD Phenom II processors. The Phenom II processors are very good chips. I would take a look at a Phenom Tri-Core or Quad Core and the following motherboard:
AMD Phenom II 720 Tri-Core (2.8 gigahertz) Processor - $119
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103649
AMD Phenom II 945 Quad-Core (3.0 gigahertz) Processor - $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103696
GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P Motherboard - $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128392
AMD Phenom II 720 Tri-Core (2.8 gigahertz) Processor - $119
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103649
AMD Phenom II 945 Quad-Core (3.0 gigahertz) Processor - $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103696
GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P Motherboard - $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128392
Damascus
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According to most benchmarks and review websites, the Phenom II X4 CPU's consistently perform higher in intense games than Intel's flagship CPU's, which cost more than twice as much!
All other benchmarks, owned by Intel, are only won by a small margin, and are benchmarks for things that very few people actually need CPU power for.
Of course, if you can afford a top-end Intel system, go ahead and get it! Every little bit of power always comes in useful down the road!
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bomberboysk
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Phenom II, or LGA1366 based core i7 would be the only routes i would take.
maroon1
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Why ? What is wrong with LGA 1156 socket ?
Core i5 750 (Lynnfield) is going to cost $195 and it will probably perform as good as AMD's flagship CPU. And P55 motherboard will be cheaper than X58
There are very few reviews for Lynnfield at the moment, but here is one from anadtech which have Lynnfield 2.66GHz and PII 955 benchamrked, and Lynnfield did better in the majority of benchmarks
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3570
Bodaggit23
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Why ? What is wrong with LGA 1156 socket ?
Core i5 750 (Lynnfield) is going to cost $195 and it will probably perform as good as AMD's flagship CPU. And P55 motherboard will be cheaper than X58
Exactly. Seems there will be much more flexibility with the socket 1156.
FairDoos
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The i5 Lynfield is coming soon but its a downgraded version of the i7 without the price tag you could go with that? I was reading about it today in a magazine. It doesent accept Triple Channel Memory and it doesent have DO stepping plus it has its own unique socket which i see pointless but owell i forgot what else ill have a re-read of the article and post some interesting stuff tommorow 
maroon1
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Triple channel memory doesn't make much difference over dual channel memory
Furthermore, Lynnfield use an updated turbo boost which can auto-overclock to higher speed than LGA 1366 processors when not all cores are used. I think this is much more usefull than Triple channel memory
Check these benchmarks came out today for i7 860 (which is based on Lynnfield architecture)
http://www.overclock.net/7054717-post1.html
http://vr-zone.com/forums/475539/core-i7-860-tested-faster-than-core-i7-920.html
It is faster than i7 920
Furthermore, Lynnfield use an updated turbo boost which can auto-overclock to higher speed than LGA 1366 processors when not all cores are used. I think this is much more usefull than Triple channel memory
Check these benchmarks came out today for i7 860 (which is based on Lynnfield architecture)
http://www.overclock.net/7054717-post1.html
http://vr-zone.com/forums/475539/core-i7-860-tested-faster-than-core-i7-920.html
It is faster than i7 920
Bodaggit23
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Name one AMD cpu that will outperform an i7 that costs less than half.
Ethan3.14159
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This is a joke right? No such thing as flexibility with Intel anymore. They had it perfect with the 775. Now say you start with an mid range i5 system, and then you want to upgrade to a high end system with multiple video cards. Not only would you need a new motherboard and cpu, you need to buy a triple channel kit of ram. Plus multiple gpu setups with an i5 is not worth it. 16 lanes of pci-e?
Give me a break.The i7 860 is also more expensive than the i7 920. We sell the 920 for $100 NZ less than the 860. The i5 750 is where the true bang for the buck lies with Intel. However considering both the Phenom II and i5 routes myself, I would never buy a setup with such limitations as the LGA 1156.
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Bodaggit23
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16 lanes of pci-e?
Who cares? Most people don't run more than one graphics card anyway, and
no one really needs more than one anyway.
Ethan3.14159
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We're not talking about need here. No one needs an i5 or i7 setup either.
We're talking getting the most for you what you pay, and the conclusion is that it won't happen with Intel anymore. At least not the i5.That's why most are recommending the Phenom II route.
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Before you go bashing the i5, let's at least see the price point it comes out as - and some Benchmarks. I have been keeping a passive eye on the i5 and haven't seen anything quantifiable in terms of performance. They will be out soon enough - and then we can talk about what chip is the best value at what price point.
Ethan3.14159
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I've already sold i5 cpu's and motherboards in the shop I work at. They've been out for a few days, just not allowed for advertisement until the release date. We already know the price points.
We sell the i7 860 for almost $100 NZ more than the i7 920. Which is fair because it performs better. The i5 750 is a little cheaper than the i7 920 and performs almost as well. The limitations with the platform at its current price point is what bothers me.
The motherboards for the LGA 1156 are pretty well priced. We sell a GIGABYTE P55-UD3P Intel P55 for $250 NZ. Not bad.