Should I build a pc or am I too young.

jutnm

Active Member
Buy an old system from a local thrift store for a hundred $, reformat the hard drive. Tear the whole thing apart from the case. Put it back together, Load windows.

If it runs, then your ready to build a new one.
i really dont see how that would help, i learned too build computers by building one for the first time, i mean oo wow reformating a hdd, ur just spending money on useless junk, he could use the 100 towards parts, if he screws up , oo well , live and learn. learn from ur mistakes
 

ceewi1

VIP Member
Ok. If I were to build it Should I wait to Novemeber and get the parts from
or shall I build it now.

Reasons for Novemember

Alot cheaper
9800GTS looks like a nice card
PCI-X - 2

1 Question. The PSU I was going to get LINK
Would it work on the 9800GTS or do you think it will be 13V
They're not about to change the voltages inside the system anytime soon :). The Proxstream doesn't have any 8pin PCI-E connectors, which are likely to be required on the next series of video cards from nVidia (it isn't really a problem, though, you'll just need to use an adapter), and is very loud at high loads. It is, however, a very high quality unit at a good price for a 1000W. It's also far more than you'll need - your system won't even pull half that much power.
 

shenry

New Member
Noo way are you to young. But what paratwa said isn't a bad idea. Learning how partitions and OS's work really helped my understanding of computers. I had an old Pentium 1 and bought an old IDE hard drive installed 98 SE and man did it teach me some stuff or what. DOS commands, boot sequences, drivers,the reliability of floppy drives, broken CD drives, Linux... Too much to mention. You'd be surprised how easier these modern machines now are compared to the old ones collecting dust in the corner. I had a good time with that PC and am now tempted to turn it on and play Commander Keen.Brings back memories...
However if you do stuff something up (You probably wont) it will only be on a old PC that cant play quake 1 at 800x600.Not on a Quad Core PC that could probably run quake 1 about 200 times at the same time without a hitch.

But remember in the world of computers.

Age = Nothing

Knowledge/Experience = 50%

Fun = !!110%!!
 

jutnm

Active Member
i think he should buy all the parts, hell be happy, and learn at the same time, i learned by building my first computer, he should talk to the most experienced ppl here about dos and donts and what to get
 

Kill Bill

New Member
Well I seen a 9800GTX was twice as fast as an 8800ULTRA So I ordered myself 2 8800ULTRAS to have it vice versa of an 9800GTX.

So Ordered peices so heres it:

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
4096mb
X2 8800ULTRA
1000GB
20.1inch Monitor 1680X1050
Vista Ultimate 32bit and XP Pro (doubled booted)
ASUS Deluxe Wi-fi
Guess the price ............... 2,800 Euros 2 hundred more than my previous but That has another Card in it and I changed the mobo to ASUS.

Prices

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 - 256Euros
X2 8800ULTRAS 1,100Euros
Asus Delixe wi-fi 200Euros

4096mb ram 210 Euros

1000GB 400Euros

Vista And Xp 300Euros

Fans case PSU Makes up the rest
 

Kill Bill

New Member
My mum and dad wouldn't let me let learn from my mistakes on hundreds of dollars worth of hardware.
According to where I bought them on komplett.

If you brake the device/hardware you may return it to us for a refound /replacment once it's in the warrenty of 24months.

If the device/hardware comes broken you must return to us ASAP by phone or by online either way within the 24month warrenty.

Wrong parts = same ^

So yippe.
 

nexolus

New Member
Well I seen a 9800GTX was twice as fast as an 8800ULTRA So I ordered myself 2 8800ULTRAS to have it vice versa of an 9800GTX.

So Ordered peices so heres it:

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
4096mb
X2 8800ULTRA
1000GB
20.1inch Monitor 1680X1050
Vista Ultimate 32bit and XP Pro (doubled booted)
ASUS Deluxe Wi-fi
Guess the price ............... 2,800 Euros 2 hundred more than my previous but That has another Card in it and I changed the mobo to ASUS.

Prices

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 - 256Euros
X2 8800ULTRAS 1,100Euros
Asus Delixe wi-fi 200Euros

4096mb ram 210 Euros

1000GB 400Euros

Vista And Xp 300Euros

Fans case PSU Makes up the rest
Well as far as I can tell you don't really know what you're doing.
For one, two of the same video card in SLI does not equal twice the processing speed. And that motherboard you have selected does not have SLI capabilities (as far as I know) meaning one of those cards would be useless. And XP Pro I think only supports 2 gigs of RAM.
 
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PabloTeK

Active Member
Actually neither of those operating systems will support 4GB of RAM if they are both 32 bit. They only see 3.25GB because of the limitations in 32 bit assembly code.
 

jutnm

Active Member
ya the only flaw i would see is that his mobo does not support SLI and the 32 bit OS wont recognize or utilize the 4 gigs
 

paratwa

New Member
i really dont see how that would help, i learned too build computers by building one for the first time, i mean oo wow reformating a hdd, ur just spending money on useless junk, he could use the 100 towards parts, if he screws up , oo well , live and learn. learn from ur mistakes

So.. your saying it's better to go ahead and spend a thousand and risk destroying it by learning how to build a system, than it is to spend $100 or less and buy an old piece of crap that works but is out dated by 6 or so years and play with it to learn.

You should work for the Bush administration! Your sense of thriftyness would fit right in.
 

jutnm

Active Member
So.. your saying it's better to go ahead and spend a thousand and risk destroying it by learning how to build a system, than it is to spend $100 or less and buy an old piece of crap that works but is out dated by 6 or so years and play with it to learn.

You should work for the Bush administration! Your sense of thriftyness would fit right in.
have u heard of returning it ???? if it breaks then return it , u know they have warrantys. and i dont see how reformatting a hdd is going to help much really. and i do support bush :D
 

Deepblue

New Member
My son was building his own comuters at 11. I showed him on a old piece of crap
from that time on i never mess with his systems, he breaks it he fixes it
 

paratwa

New Member
have u heard of returning it ???? if it breaks then return it , u know they have warrantys. and i dont see how reformatting a hdd is going to help much really. and i do support bush :D

Reformatting the hard drive teaches him what it takes to do so, and what it takes to install an operating system, drivers and such. Also doing it this way lets him play with the bio's and other settings with out fear of destroying anything expensive.

If he is successful, it will show his parents that he can be trusted with building a much more expensive system by himself. And that's what it is all about, getting the trust.

As for returning parts, what a hassle it would be for his parents. Do you think an 11 year old can drive himself to the post office?
 

jutnm

Active Member
Reformatting the hard drive teaches him what it takes to do so, and what it takes to install an operating system, drivers and such. Also doing it this way lets him play with the bio's and other settings with out fear of destroying anything expensive.

If he is successful, it will show his parents that he can be trusted with building a much more expensive system by himself. And that's what it is all about, getting the trust.

As for returning parts, what a hassle it would be for his parents. Do you think an 11 year old can drive himself to the post office?
well cant he still do the samething with a "NEW" hdd, and its not much of a hassle, if u wanna work hard for what u want, and u still can play with the bios and install an OS
 

_simon_

New Member
Yeah but i bet i'd have difficulty telling the different bits of ahrdware apart. I'd end up sticking the motherboard in the graphics card slot.
lol that's not physically possible ;)

The motherboard comes with a manual that explains with pictures and words what every slot is for and most things will only fit in one kind of slot and in one direction. There isn't much room for error.

Put it this way, my other half who is not technical minded at all was able to build her first pc on her own.
 
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