Something Keeps Deleting my antivirus and Windows Security.

ShameerM90

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As the tile says, I have kept experimenting. Following is the list of apps which were installed { Pi -Rate- ED).

Photoshop 2019,
Rhino 5.

I could list others too but i have used them for many years in past but no issues to date. Others which i had doubts on are,
Illustrator 2019,
inDesign 2019.

So I have formatted and reinstalled my windows many times. I thought it was windows versions. So I changed, tried, 1903, 1909, 2004 Same results.

With each subsequent installs of windows I uninstall 1 previous software to rule out if it was causing issue. Right now I am only left with photoshop but that is a software i need the most. I also have it installed on other laptops but they have shown no issues.

P.s. Ever Since i Installed it on other laptops {Photoshop} I have had this issues 3 times. So i doubt it is that.

Now With windows security out, Bitdefender total security out, this time I thought I would Reinstall the antivirus and scan. Apparently that something is blocking me from doing it. It shows not unusual notification or error. It just closes.

Things I have tried to no use.
Restore points. { Nope These are deleted too}
reset keeping file {does not help}


Anyone has an idea what it can be? How is the thing still there on pc if i format the drive?
p.s. I have 2 drive. 120gb ssd (OS and no softwares), 1TB HDD partitioned in 2 500gb drives. (Data and Programs)
I have only formatted the 118 gb partitioned of ssd where os was installed.

I tired malware bytes before posting this. Here are the results attached to this thread.
Can we track where they are coming from and how?

Observations So far.

It seems to strike a few weeks after a fresh install.
cant install any antivirus after it happens,
windows restore also stops working,
it does not seem like it has to do with software i installed {because of deductive testing I did}
Does not seem to transfer itself over usb drives.
 

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ShameerM90

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Currently I am leaving my PC as is. With all the threats in there place. NO formatting as well.

I have been thinking.
Scan and delete with MB
Format pc.
scan with MB, If nothing found,
installed 1 software (Most needed)
Scan with MB, If found flag it, if not
INstall another
Repeat.

Good idea?

any other way to find where these came from? and on what date? we can corelate it to software installed dates maybe?
 

ShameerM90

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SO i have been going through the MB results list. Apparently, These look like to me at least, coming from installed software. my doubt is on adobe suits. Because no other software I have been using has does this in the past. Maybe i Will run MB on other laptops which were unaffected to see what is going on there in the mean while
 

johnb35

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Your issue is not software related. The infections listed are pretty bad, you are getting hacked. My guess is that you are going to bad websites and getting infected that way. The log also said that "no action was taken" Make sure you click on quarantine all after the scan. You need to find out what website is causing this and stop going there. Does anyone else use this pc?
 

ShameerM90

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Your issue is not software related. The infections listed are pretty bad, you are getting hacked. My guess is that you are going to bad websites and getting infected that way. The log also said that "no action was taken" Make sure you click on quarantine all after the scan. You need to find out what website is causing this and stop going there. Does anyone else use this pc?
Hey, thanks for your reply. Now that you mention it. I do remeber that since I last formatted. It happen only after i downloaded bittorrent and downloaded inception from thebiratebay.org. that does explain the delayed attack.

Also can you elaborate getting hacked and how you got to this conclusion? I am a curious person. I WOULD like to know what is your understanding or rational or logic behind this conclusion.
 

ShameerM90

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Also. No one else uses this pc. Only suspicion site is tpb dot org. I didnt open any other one yet. However if it is site related. Should bitdefender or windows security detect it? Like i understand that software like a keygen which asks for disabling antivirus and runs as administrator can get past antivirus but how does this happen with a website? Specially when bitdefender is supposed to be looking out for this stuff? I am using paid total security version FYI.
 

johnb35

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Staff member
I was gonna edit my post and ask if you were downloading torrents, since you listed all those softwares. As you can see its not worth it downloading illegal software from torrents as you will have issues with your pc. If you really need the software, PAY FOR IT like everyone else does. There isn't one malware program out there that will catch everything. There is new malware created everyday. Once you stop torrenting software, all your issues will go away. If you have installed torrented programs already, you need to format your drive and start over again.
 

ShameerM90

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The thing is. These are software i dont use daily. Not even for earning money. Like hardly once or twice in few months. I dont find paying adobe 10 dollars each month any sensible decision. Not like this justifies it. Still thats the thing. Also I do buy softwares that i use daily. It bought sketchup 8 pro back in the day and pepakura 4 as these were really great software for me.

I dont find free software (adobe alternatives) worth it in terms of features and quality. And i dont agree with pricing strategies of big companies. If adobe made a little stripped down versions with one time, life time licence. I would by it day one. The thing is these big companies dont care of majority maybe. I being a non professional user... there are not many like me. Nor will they buy it. Mostly i feel. So only option is pirate or stick with not so good software and you cant deny adobe has good software and tools.

Regardless this was not the topic. I understand the risks. I just need to figure out where this antivirus disabling malware is coming from. That is the only concern for me.


On a side note. If you ever tried to edit an pdf you know the pain. Only adobe allows thumbnail view of pdf files. Only paid acrobat allows you to edit pdfs. And alternative are just not good enough. This is a serious problem like why do i need to pay to rearrange pages in a pdf? Why cant i draw shapes on it. Why cant i merge two pdfs? Seriously adobe pdf really pissed me off. I just had to get it pirated.
 
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