Suggestions for overclocking my 6000+? (stock 3.1GHz, 65nm)

Bartmasta said:
1.425 is the highest I can go on stock cooling, im suprised the top C' of it was 52 when running 3dmark06.

Don't think I can go any higher on my gfx card either.

My cpu is at 3.3 and my gfx card at 730/1825/2100, yes its 1gb.

Possibly I can still raise the bus without raising voltage and SLIGHTLY raise gfx card but thats it. I'd have to get a zalman but I think theres no point in getting one for such a small difference.

ps make your ram 800 mhz
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Those are good temps on a stock cooler. I tried raising my GPU settings before settling on 720/1800/980.

At 740/1850/1000(2000), it froze up after some stress tests.

At 730/1825/990(1980), it was stable. My 3dmark06 SM2.0 and SM3.0 scores went up, but for some reason, my CPU score dropped by about 40 points. Overall, the total was higher, but I didn't like the lower CPU score, so I settled on 720, etc.

I could try pushing the CPU higher with the Zalman, and I know I could do better...but I think I've found a good balance of performance, temperature, and SOUND. When I was at 1.467v, my temps were under control, but the cooler fan was super loud. At 3.3GHz, I can afford to adjust fan settings to be quiet most of the time.

You win. ;) Until Phenom and ATI Radeon prices drop, that is. :D
 
Still too damn hot. I reached 62'C on cod4 with my ghetto cooling on and the game froze. I'm gonna have to go back to 3.2, but I'm still beating you :)

My cpu score was 2387 at 3193 and 2471 at 3301. Which is like 84 diff but it's at 3.2 now so I'd say something like 77. Meaning my new 3dmark06 score is like 3600~ from 3674
 
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At 3.30, my CPU score is 2490. My 3dmark06 scores are very consistent and are generally within 10 points of each other every time.

I think gfx scores are tied in with the CPU because maybe increasing CPU speed frees up some of the bottlenecking (didn't think a 6000+ could bottleneck a 9600GT, but who knows).

And yea, 60C seems too high. I'd make sure it reaches 55C, tops. =/

I suggest getting an Arctic Freezer Pro 64. It's cheap, and people say it's almost as effective as a Zalman (maybe on par with a Zalman 9500?).
 
Stable at 3.41! Decided to try it out, and my temps reach a peak of 52-53C at 1.467v. =) Good enough for me.

10712 3dmarks
4907 SM2.0
4806 SM3.0
2570 CPU score

I tried bumping my GPU up to 730/1825/990 again, and this time, one of my drivers actually crashed or gave some kind of error. Guess I found the limits of my PNY...
 
Bumped up my GPU again just a tad, score up by 60 points now haha. I'm officially maxed out and stable.

I'll enjoy the edge for a couple more days... ;)

Just wish I could hit 11,000. I'd be at peace with the "common system," but my rig seems destined to come just short no matter what.
 
I mean, I have a slightly higher score than you right now, but once you get your cooler, you'll probably pass me as soon as it's stable. =)

BTW, you seem really confident that you're going to hit 3.5 -- which not a lot of people do. Do you know something that others don't?
 
Woah I got it and temps wont go higher than 52-53 on orthos on 1.4 :o

Down from 80 at 2 min lol

Hmm Im at 3.4 ghz and temps are stable but it crash 3 sec after running orthos and only go up to 53 'C

what can be causing it?
 
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Orthos crashing and stability is not all based on temperature. Your voltages could be off, or your RAM voltage, or timings, etc...it has to all be in sync somehow.
 
im not postjacking, me and smoothjk have the same cpu so we are discussing how to overclock it and 3dmark06 results of it...

It's kind of harsh to hope someone gets banned.

You could at least explain what Im doing wrong cause I dont exactly understand and tell me how to fix it.

ps : i deleted some unneeded posts

smooth I tried 220 bus with 1.45 voltage to get 3.4 and orthos was crashing after 3 sec and 3dmark06.. I lowerd bus a bit but still the same problem. I tried 1.475 but windows didn't start up.

I dunno but if iI'm getting 53max orthos at 1.4, and 60 at 1.425 then surely it would be too hot at 1.45? At least for orthos maybe. I don't want to push temps to the limits though.

I was only trying the cpu test so don't know if RAM matters there, I have my ram at 800 Mhz o/c to like 880 @ 2.2V. 4-4-4-4 ram timing.

Ps I tried 215 bus from 213 at 1.425 for teh lulz and was unstable, had orthos crashing after a min or 30 sec even at cool temps
 
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Bartmasta said:
im not postjacking, me and smoothjk have the same cpu so we are discussing how to overclock it and 3dmark06 results of it...

It's kind of harsh to hope someone gets banned.

You could at least explain what Im doing wrong cause I dont exactly understand and tell me how to fix it.

ps : i deleted some unneeded posts

smooth I tried 220 bus with 1.45 voltage to get 3.4 and orthos was crashing after 3 sec and 3dmark06.. I lowerd bus a bit but still the same problem. I tried 1.475 but windows didn't start up.

I dunno but if iI'm getting 53max orthos at 1.4, and 60 at 1.425 then surely it would be too hot at 1.45? At least for orthos maybe. I don't want to push temps to the limits though.

I was only trying the cpu test so don't know if RAM matters there, I have my ram at 800 Mhz o/c to like 880 @ 2.2V. 4-4-4-4 ram timing.

Ps I tried 215 bus from 213 at 1.425 for teh lulz and was unstable, had orthos crashing after a min or 30 sec even at cool temps
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if your gonna run 880 mhz you need to raise your ram timmings to atleast 5.5.5 15 that will help ....bump the voltage up to 2.0 2.1 then try it i would really set my ram to 667 with lower timings
 
I don't know how to change RAM timings. Isn't the lower the better? Then I would be making my ram worse?

It's already at 2.2V because that's the stock V for it.

I already tried it at 667 when I was at 3.4 and didn't help at all.
 
I was going to suggest the same. I have my RAM at 5-5-5-15, even though they are factory spec'd at 4-4-4-12. Yes, the higher number is "worse," but it's a tradeoff to run stably at the higher frequency. And you won't be able to tell the difference anyway.

That's really the only problem I see. If that doesn't help, then I'm out of ideas...it could possibly be a mobo that isn't friendly to overclocking, but I doubt it.

I tried going to 3.44, but it was only stable for 3 1/2 hours during Orthos testing. So I'm back to 3.4, which is good for longer. Haven't done a full 8 hours testing yet, but I never use my computer for 8 hours in one sitting anyway, nor does anything continuously stress my system that much.
 
Depends on your mobo and your BIOS. Most likely, RAM timings will be set to Auto, so you need to change that. Some mobos don't allow this feature.

It might be possible with AMD Overdrive, but I can't confirm this...I don't hear many good things about software overclocking anyway.

Edit: Don't use AOD. I was curious and tried it out, and it messed things up. I had to pull out the jumper for my CMOS battery, switch positions and back to get into BIOS and fix things.
 
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Decided to go for rock-solid stability instead of a few extra points in benchmarks. I'm down to 3.35 stable with a 10-hour Orthos run, and 700/1750/960 on my GPU through a 2-hour Furmark run (still hit 70-72C). Testing 3.36 now, but if that's stable, I'm gonna stop there. Not worth any worries...
 
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