Vista Problem

The thing to note now is that NTFS 5.0 is still in use. Take a look at NT 3.1 and then 4.0 floowed by 2000 plus the Fat16 and Fat32 seen from 3.1 to ME there each seeing a new NTFS or Dos level. Will the next version in 2009-10 see NTFS 6.0 replace the current 5.0? Probably not since that will still see 32bit editions.

When XP and now Vista came out I simply switched the "new look" back to the Windows Classic appearance not being thrilled with the new styles. Likewise many hated 98 when that came out to replace WIN95 Plus! at the time. Yet 98 and 98SE saw full 32bit support for the first time on a home not network type system foloowing the OSR2 release for 95 as an update.

Vista is the latest MS nightmare for many while a blessing for others it seems. For the new comer it will be the big thrill while those that have run the various versions all the way back to dos will see just as many faults that may even outwelgh the improvements seen with the new version.

WMP 11 here "will not" display any video while still hearing sound without problem. Can you remove it and download a replacement copy in Vista? NADA! There's no add/remove Windows components option as seen in everything back to 95! :mad::mad::mad: GGrrr...!!!

You have to reinstall Windows just to fix WMP 11? no thanks! VLC player please! Cyberlink's PowerDVD thank you! XP here sees WMP 10 since that was the last and best WMP to date. Even Ouick Time and ITunes passed WMP 11 by the extra mile there! :rolleyes:
 
PC eye said:
Can you remove it and download a replacement copy in Vista? NADA! There's no add/remove Windows components option as seen in everything back to 95! :mad::mad::mad: GGrrr...!!!
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Add and remove windows components does not remove the program, it just removes the short cuts from the start menu and desktop. If you thought it did your fooling yourself. Plus Vista does have it, its just renamed to Windows Programs and Features.
 
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Add and remove windows components does not remove the program, it just removes the short cuts from the start menu and desktop. If you thought it did your fooling yourself. Plus Vista does have it, its just renamed to Windows Programs and Features.
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Following the use of the option seen in the older versions all you did from there was simply remove the main reg key and remaining folder on drive if needed. But that allows you to remove a program like WMP 11 to then seen WMP 10 installed afterwards. That also saw IE removed for a fresh download and installation of a fresh copy when problems were seen with IE 6 in XP.

The new name for the add/remove being Programs and Features lacks the option of removing items like WMP, Media Center once set up, IE 7, and other MS components. Otherwise WMP 11 would have already been removed and reinstalled fresh to correct the lack of video display when a video file or dvd is run.

The display window in WMP 11 remains black when running any type of video with reinstalling Vista over would seem to be the way to see that corrected presently. Simply one of the setbacks for Vista there.
 
Unchecking windows media player in add and remove windows components does not remove the program. If you even thought to look at the Description in add or remove windows components when you check windows media player or internet explorer is says right there (Add or Removes Access to windows Media Player or Internet explorer from the Start Menu and desktop)

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Those are in Vista not XP there. Do you need it spelled out or simply read the MS information on this? Vista saw a big change there over...

How To Add or Remove a Windows Component in Windows XP

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SUMMARY To Add a Windows XP Component

To Remove a Windows XP Component




SUMMARY

This article describes how to add or remove a Windows component in Windows XP.

After Windows XP is installed on your computer, you can use the Add or Remove Programs tool in Control Panel to add a Windows component that was not included in the original installation, or to remove an existing Windows component that you no longer require.


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To Add a Windows XP Component

1.Log on as Administrator or as a member of the Administrators group.2.Click Start, click Control Panel, and then double-click Add or Remove Programs.3.Click Add/Remove Windows Components. The Windows Components Wizard starts.4.In the Components list, click to select the check box that is next to the component that you want to add. If the check box for a component is shaded, only some of its subcomponents are selected for installation.

To view a list of the subcomponents, click Details. Click to select the check box next to the subcomponents that you want to add, and then click OK. If the Details button is unavailable, the component does not contain subcomponents.5.Click Next.6.If the Insert Disk dialog box appears, use one of the following methods: •Insert your Windows XP CD-ROM into your CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive, and then click OK.•Click OK to locate your Windows XP installation files. In the Files Needed dialog box, click Browse, locate your Windows XP installation files, and then click Open. For example, the installation files might be in the D:\I386 folder.7.In the Completing the Windows Components Wizard screen, click Finish.
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To Remove a Windows XP Component

1.Log on as Administrator or as a member of the Administrators group.2.Click Start, click Control Panel, and then double-click Add or Remove Programs.3.Click Add/Remove Windows Components. The Windows Components Wizard starts.4.In the Components list, click to clear the check box next to the component that you want to remove. Note that a shaded check box next to a component indicates that only some of its subcomponents are installed.

If you want to remove a subcomponent, click Details. Then, click to clear the check box next to the subcomponents that you want to remove, and then click OK.5.Click Next.6.In the Completing the Windows Components Wizard screen, click Finish.


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You said Vista does not have a Add and remove components, it does they just changed the name to Windows features.

You said you could remove Media Player in XP buy using Add and Remove Windows Components, you can not it only removes access to it from the start menu and desktop.

You can twist this around all you want to but I am out of it, believe what you want.
 
I've already done it on XP and have helped others wanting to see 11 gone completely. If you read what I mentioned earlier besides the typical rollback with the add/remove Windows components option you have to remove the main reg key for WMP in order to see WMP 9 or 10 go on after seeing 11 gone.

The manual deletion of the Media Player folder then remains an additional option if needed in order to see one of the two previous versions reinstalled. In Vista the option there is simply to enable or disable but lacks a method of replacement since WMP 11 for the new version is not a separate item you can download fresh. WMP 11 for XP is just like the 9 or 10 versions.
 
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Reread #25 and #27 ddaaa...

One of the main differences between Vista and XP is simple. In XP you can manually see things totally removed and download various MS items separately while now MS has built everything "into" the new and following versions to come. That can be a royal annoyance to the average user there. :rolleyes:
 
I will repeat, unchecking Windows media Player or Internet Explorer in XPs Add and Remove Components does not remove it, it just removes access to it, so in reality they really just gave it its true name in Vista (turn off). Just let it go PCeye, it doesnt matter to me if you think it does or not.
 
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I will repeat, unchecking Windows media Player or Internet Explorer in XPs Add and Remove Components does not remove it, it just removes access to it, so in reality they really just gave it its true name in Vista (turn off). Just let it go PCeye, it doesnt matter to me if you think it does or not.
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You better have the IE setup file or another browser installed if you do. You will have to see a full install when downloading a fresh copy from MS for XP. That will overwrite whatever is left over on the drive and rewrite the registy entries.

For WMP 11 you have to remove the HKEY_LOCALMACHINE>software>microsoft>media player main key in order to see WMP 9 or 10 go on after unchecking 11 and even manually removing the folder in XP. In Vista on the other WMP is not seen in the Windows Features or in the add/remove section. The screen below show what is seen for turning on or off. (besides anything else currently installed)



 
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