Website Questions.

g4m3rof1337

Active Member
When people hire people to make websites, to the web designers use WYSIWYG programs? And if someone wants a basic or flash or some type of site, they use different programs? And is it the web designers job to put the website on a hoster? Like GoDaddy. Does that even happen?



Anyways.



Thanks.




/Derek.
 

Punk

Moderator
Staff member
Web designers don't use just one program. They can use any photo editing (Photoshop, Fireworks), they can make animation with Flash etc. The web designer's job is to make the design of the website. It is the webmaster's job to put everything on Godaddy for example.

I myself am the web designer, web developper, web coder and webmaster of my website :p
 

99F

banned
Yeah it's real easy to just do everything urself when you own a website like mine..

Code:
<html>
<body>
LOL HALLOE
<img src="http://goatse.cs/goatse.jpg>"
</body>
</html>


Heh.. I admit I'm just bored on a wednesday morning.
 

Geoff

VIP Member
I can't speak for all, but because of all the limitations of WYSIWYG editors, most code by hand. If it were be, I would use a program say Frontpage, however on certain sections I would code manually in the split mode so I can see how the page is working out.
 

_simon_

New Member
^ no professional web designer nor anyone who even remotely knows what they are doing would use Frontpage.

I have never seen any program butcher html like frontpage does. It's an absolute nightmare trying to correct or make changes to a site that someone made with frontpage.
 

Punk

Moderator
Staff member
^ no professional web designer nor anyone who even remotely knows what they are doing would use Frontpage.

I have never seen any program butcher html like frontpage does. It's an absolute nightmare trying to correct or make changes to a site that someone made with frontpage.

I agree!
 

Geoff

VIP Member
I have never seen any program butcher html like frontpage does. It's an absolute nightmare trying to correct or make changes to a site that someone made with frontpage.
Frontpage is extremely clean when you compare it to using Microsoft Word and then saving it as HTML.
 

Punk

Moderator
Staff member
[-0MEGA-];732267 said:
Frontpage is extremely clean when you compare it to using Microsoft Word and then saving it as HTML.

Who would do that?

Anyone who knows a little bit of HTML will know that they need a HTML editor...
 

_simon_

New Member
[-0MEGA-];732267 said:
Frontpage is extremely clean when you compare it to using Microsoft Word and then saving it as HTML.

That's like comparing it to trying to make a website in Calculator. Word is a word processor, not website design package.

You can use the likes of notepad for coding, but don't try and use something that does html on the side.

MS discontinued Frontpage a while back thankfully.
 

Geoff

VIP Member
Who would do that?

Anyone who knows a little bit of HTML will know that they need a HTML editor...

That's like comparing it to trying to make a website in Calculator. Word is a word processor, not website design package.

You can use the likes of notepad for coding, but don't try and use something that does html on the side.

MS discontinued Frontpage a while back thankfully.
I know Word is for word processing, but back in high school our teacher was showing us that if you have Word save it as an HTML file, how much garbage it adds in to the source code, which will make your page load much slower.
 

Punk

Moderator
Staff member
Yeah same goes for Dreamweaver.

If you want to write HTML, just get a free HTML editor, they are the ones that work the best!
 

kobaj

VIP Member
If you want to be making websites dont use a wysiwyg program, code yourself. Notepad is all you need (well, plus photo editing software...). I learned to code myself from W3 schools. Head down to your local library for some xhtml books, I dont see the point in taking a class myself.
 

Punk

Moderator
Staff member
Yeah I agree, I never took class and I am making good websites.. ( oops need to stay modest :p)
 

Punk

Moderator
Staff member
if you use notepad you're forced to learn html properly as it won't help you out in any way ;)

It's better to learn with a little help... When you can't find why your first code didn't work and spent hours on it, it can be very discouraging.
 

tlarkin

VIP Member
I use FOSS to make webpages.

http://www.nvu.com/index.php

http://www.tacosw.com/

http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/

Then I wrote a shell script to automatically out put date stamped HTML pages

Code:
#!/bin/bash

# make_page - A script to produce an HTML file 
# that has a date stamp

RIGHT_NOW=$(date +"%x %r %Z")
TIME_STAMP="Updated on $RIGHT_NOW by $USER"

cat  << -EOF
    <HTML>
    <HEAD>
        <TITLE>
    
        </TITLE>
    </HEAD>

    <BODY>
    <H1>$TITLE</H1>
    <P>$TIME_STAMP</p>
    </BODY>
    </HTML>

EOF
 
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