What to go with this system?

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Brewboy

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These are the parts I have selected for the system so far. The only things I'm really kind of set on are the motherboard and CPUs. I know nothing of PSUs, cases, and especially cooling systems.

Motherboard-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131146

CPU x2
http://www.buy.com/prod/amd-athlon-...hz-ht-128kb-128kb-l1/q/loc/101/203651022.html

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817256020

Graphics card(s)
??? I have two 1440x900 monitors, want to do rendering...

Case
??? something sexy

Hard-drives x3 in RAID 0
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7821949&st=raptor&type=product&id=1142294266684

Cooling system
??? what's quiet...I don't think overclocking this system will be necessary.

Ram x4gigs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145590
 
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PC eye

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One thing you can save on right from the start is close to $60 on the FX-74 on the second link there. You can it for $403 instead of $460 at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103866

A 1000w supply is a little overkill unless you are planning some big SLI setup. Good price seen on the Corsair xms series memory I paid $110 for 2gb of Kingston Value Ram. Wirh two optical drives, two 250gb ide drives, and two 500gb sata drives added to that a 480w supply covers things. For adding a water cooling setup and considering SLI you would then look at 550-700w models unless you know the brand for the 1000w is good. Silverstone does make the "good" list fortunately.
 
ThatGuy16

ThatGuy16

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what would be your budget? if you got the money look into the 8800 series cards
As far as a case goes, its about personal preferance...of course i would suggest a NZXT Apollo :p
 
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Brewboy

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Thanks for the links...how much power do you think I would need with two 8800's and a watercooled system. Is a watercooled system necessary and is it quieter?
 
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wizle

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Brewboy said:
Thanks for the links...how much power do you think I would need with two 8800's and a watercooled system. Is a watercooled system necessary and is it quieter?
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way quieter, if you go that way;)build it yourself. My brother built his from a pet supply store. All he had to buy special was the blocks and radiator
 
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With a water cooling setup for what? just cpu or cpu and two large vpu cards? With an air conditioned case and liquid cooling you are looking at a larger budget. With just a cpu cooler and non air conditioned case a good gaming case that allows for larger case fans is the less costly expense there. For twin 8800s for SLI a good 600-700w supply will work even for a degree of ocing.

For ocing twin video cards you may want more then large vpu fans but liquid cooling for those. With a 1000w supply weigh in the additional heat and plan on the extra cooling. You will be looking at a price range of $1500-$2000 to complete a higher end gaming case loaded with the extras.
 
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Brewboy

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OK it's making more sense now. I'm not going to overclock the GPU's just the CPU. I'm going to go with a 700w modular powersupply. Case... something big with mucho fans. Now, for SLI...

With two monitors, would it be more advantages two run each video card seperately to each screen, or two link them together as one and run both monitors off of the "one".

Liquid cooling, can two CPU's share a radiator and pump, meaning I would run the coolant through two blocks?
 
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PC eye

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I haven't seen any lately for SLI setups. You would most likely end up running two unless you find a universal type that will work for both SLI and Crossfire. Some cards actually run two vpus on the same card with the twin vga outputs while SLI will provide the performance value. The question there will depend on cloning or extending the desktop across both screens. With them synced you can easily extend them. For running separate you msy end up running a program like Ultramon.
 
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ducis

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Brewboy said:
OK it's making more sense now. I'm not going to overclock the GPU's just the CPU. I'm going to go with a 700w modular powersupply. Case... something big with mucho fans. Now, for SLI...

With two monitors, would it be more advantages two run each video card seperately to each screen, or two link them together as one and run both monitors off of the "one".

Liquid cooling, can two CPU's share a radiator and pump, meaning I would run the coolant through two blocks?
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yes
 
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Brewboy

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PC eye said:
I haven't seen any lately for SLI setups. You would most likely end up running two unless you find a universal type that will work for both SLI and Crossfire. Some cards actually run two vpus on the same card with the twin vga outputs while SLI will provide the performance value. The question there will depend on cloning or extending the desktop across both screens. With them synced you can easily extend them. For running separate you msy end up running a program like Ultramon.
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Still a little confused... I want to extend my windows desktop onto the second screen. Will probably be running multiple applications at once, but usually just visual studios and/or flash with a movie or WOW on the other screen. I was just going to start with this, and if necessary I'll add a second one later...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814130072
 
hNic

hNic

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I have one suggestion.

PLEASE shop around before deciding to buy any PC part from Best Buy

i would bet good money on being able to find a better deal online

IMHO
 
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PC eye

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Brewboy said:
Still a little confused... I want to extend my windows desktop onto the second screen. Will probably be running multiple applications at once, but usually just visual studios and/or flash with a movie or WOW on the other screen. I was just going to start with this, and if necessary I'll add a second one later...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814130072
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Generally you would use the video card software for extending the desktop by using the provided configuration tool. ATI's Catatlyst is a little easier for this over NVidia while you should simply be able to use that for the basics and later consider a program like Ultramon for a more involved setup. Many simlpy take two cards and run one monitor off of each like in the case of only having one AGP or PCI-E slot and using a PCI card for the second there.

Using a Y adapter to run a dual monitor setup that wat leaves you with a cloned desktop rather then an extended one. But you then see the performance yield of the SLI there with two vpus running as one in a sense. With each plugged into it's own card software then becomes the key for extending across the two screens.
 
ceewi1

ceewi1

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If you're going with 2 FX-74s and 2 highend videocards in SLI, a quality 1000W PSU would be advisable.
 
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PC eye

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ceewi1 said:
If you're going with 2 FX-74s and 2 highend videocards in SLI, a quality 1000W PSU would be advisable.
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When you going to write that sticky? :p Besides why buy a twin socket board and run just one FX-74? :eek: ! (had to throw that in. :p )

The two cpus alone wouldn't pace a heavy demand by themselves since newer designs are made to be a little more energy efficient. But adding SLI and multiple hard drives and other devices and the likely OC factor would count towards wanting a heavy enough supply one that sees good regulation anyways.
 
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PC eye

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Are you planning to two or just one cpu on the board there? I'll be waiting for a single processor board that will run one FX-74 while looking at the 6000+ FX AM2 model for the time being. Multitasking to the high end with two there.
 
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Brewboy

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I was unaware that I could leave one of the sockets empty?! If so then perhaps I'll just run one initially and see how it handles it.
 
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PC eye

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Generally dual socket boards have always been seen for server not desktop builds over the years. I was hoping here to get into a single socket board for the new quad core line. The information on this type of board shows that many could be run with a single cpu while seeing full capability with both sockets put to use.

The bios on the board itself would have to allow this. The user manual can be reviewed at http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/Socket%20F/L1N64-SLI%20WS/e3014_l1n64-sli_ws.pdf If you goof while ocing all you do is shut the system down and the bios resets itself automatically! That makes an interesting new feature seen there in the overview. When installing only one cpu always use the cpu socket #0 is mentioned there. section 2-6
 
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