Yes or No ?

[speedyink]

I'd say upgrade to 8.1, but not to 10. There is a definite chance of something screwing up if you upgrade to Windows 10. Every computer I upgraded had some weird problem afterwords. There's not much to go wrong with an update to 8.1, only good things came with it when I updated my Desktop a while back.

Out of Windows 7, 8.1 or 10, though, I'd choose Windows 7. Maybe in a couple years they can iron out the flaws in Windows 10, and everything will be cool. Seriously doubt they'll bring back the option to do manual updates though... That will always be a huge pain in the ass for me.

 

[Shlouski]

Is it just me or does anyone else feel resentment towards windows 10 because of the way MS pushed the update or forced as many would describe it?
I also don't like the feeling of being coerced by an offer, upgrade on are terms or you will need to pay, a blatant tactic to try to coerce as many people as possible to upgrade.
I have windows 10 on a new laptop and its ok, I personally don't see any benefits over windows 8 or windows 7 that some of my machines are still using, I think the saying 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' is very apt especially when talking about computers. I understand those wishing to use new functions only available on windows 10 updating to it.
I still have privacy concerns when it comes to some of windows updates, these concerns may be exaggerated and blown out of proportion, but I don't like the trend of increasing data collection and cyber crime.
Also no company gives away anything for free unless they are ultimately benefiting from it, can anyone shed some light on MS reasons for giving away for free?

 

[C4C]

Is it just me or does anyone else feel resentment towards windows 10 because of the way MS pushed the update or forced as many would describe it?
I also don't like the feeling of being coerced by an offer, upgrade on are terms or you will need to pay, a blatant tactic to try to coerce as many people as possible to upgrade.
I have windows 10 on a new laptop and its ok, I personally don't see any benefits over windows 8 or windows 7 that some of my machines are still using, I think the saying 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' is very apt especially when talking about computers. I understand those wishing to use new functions only available on windows 10 updating to it.
I still have privacy concerns when it comes to some of windows updates, these concerns may be exaggerated and blown out of proportion, but I don't like the trend of increasing data collection and cyber crime.
Also no company gives away anything for free unless they are ultimately benefiting from it, can anyone shed some light on MS reasons for giving away for free?

The stability and performance upgrades, as well as having app developers on the same page. XBOX ONE AND WINDOWS 10 NOW GET SOME OF THE SAME GAMES (Forza Horizon 3 and Halo 5 for example).

The other way I view it is a way to give back to the community after all the revenue they're earned, and the headache they've caused with Win 8/8.1.

Everybody who doesn't upgrade will eventually have to pay for Win 10.

 

[Jiniix]

If you don't manage your Windows updates and just install them all, Windows 7 and 8.1 are basically data miners as well now. They even packaged a Windows 10 upgrade update as a "Security Update", making life hell for sysadmins
Whenever I'm installing a Windows 7 today, I install all updates before activating. Then once you activate, you'll see a bunch for updates appear. Those can all be discarded...

 

[Shlouski]

If you don't manage your Windows updates and just install them all, Windows 7 and 8.1 are basically data miners as well now. They even packaged a Windows 10 upgrade update as a "Security Update", making life hell for sysadmins
Whenever I'm installing a Windows 7 today, I install all updates before activating. Then once you activate, you'll see a bunch for updates appear. Those can all be discarded...

None of mine have been updated since 2014 and I've had no problems, I just do driver updates and use other means of security.

 

[voyagerfan99]

Is it just me or does anyone else feel resentment towards windows 10 because of the way MS pushed the update or forced as many would describe it?

Pretty much this. Not just the fact that they have so much crap to spy on you built into the OS.

If you don't manage your Windows updates and just install them all, Windows 7 and 8.1 are basically data miners as well now.

That's why I use Spybot Anti-Beacon

 

[Okedokey]

Everybody who doesn't upgrade will eventually have to pay for Win 10.

Microsoft benefits from having a much simpler environment to manage. The more computers that are on the same platform the better for their bottom line and application development.

 

[spirit]

I see why Microsoft want everybody on Windows 10, it's for the reasons Oke said above, but yeah I agree with people here who don't like the forced upgrades. This post I wrote in the Windows 10 thread sums up my views.

I like Windows 10 and I like Microsoft, I think everybody knows that. However, what I'm not too keen on is Microsoft literally forcing Windows 10 onto machines running 7 and 8.1. I don't have a problem with the little update that allows you to download and install Windows 10, that's fine, but what I do have a problem with is the fact that sometimes Windows 10 is automatically downloaded and installed without your consent even if you haven't reserved an upgrade or even opened that little 'Get Windows 10!' app that Windows Update downloads. I was in the middle of studying for an exam today using OneNote when suddenly my Surface Pro rebooted. It was annoying because I was busy and my Surface just rebooted without any warning whatsoever and then even more annoying as I saw it saying 'Preparing update for Windows 10' as it was shutting down. I had 10 on my old Surface (it's a first generation Pro, so the oldest Surface you can get) a while ago and it didn't work well on it so I put 8.1 back on it, so you can imagine how annoyed I was. I just held the power button in to shut the Surface down and then when I turned it on again and booted back into 8.1 I found a program to remove that little update completely and delete the 8GB installation image it downloaded onto my tiny 64GB SSD without my consent. This is the article I used to remove the forced upgrade: http://www.infoworld.com/article/29...-10-crapware-off-your-windows-7-or-81-pc.html

If I had reserved an upgrade for 10 and said 'yes, I want to install it!' then it would have been OK (but it would have been nice to have been notified before my Surface rebooted whilst I was in the middle of working!), but I hadn't. The free upgrade to 10 is nice, but only if you want it. If you don't want it then it's a nightmare! On my Surface I hadn't reserved any upgrades or done anything to confirm I wanted 10 on it and yet it still downloaded 10 and attempted to install it without my consent. I only have a 64GB SSD in that Surface too - if my SSD had been closer to full then there wouldn't have been enough space to even store the OS image.

/rant

 

[Origin Saint]

Personally, I love Windows 10, and really enjoyed 8.1 after I put Classic Shell on it. A matter of preference I suppose, but I've not had stability issues on any OS that were noticeable, and I've been able to cope, learn, and grow to love every Windows GUI as I get them. Granted, I've been spoiled, and jumped into all the good ones; Started with Win 95, then Win 98, then XP, then 7, then 8, 8.1 and now 10. Never had to deal with Vista, or Millennium. Don't remember much about 95, but I don't think it was well received.

That said, if you're that concerned about it and are going to be resistant to the changes made, then just stick where you're at. Just don't be that guy who starts complaining about things that were fixed in the upgrades you didn't take part in

Barring my liking for 8 after Classic Shell, this comes to mind:

 

[Intel_man]

Windows 2000 is missing from that picture!

 

[Origin Saint]

Windows 2000 is missing from that picture!

Well then the every-other release thing wouldn't work, and we can't have that!

 

[Shlouski]

I actually liked vista, looked so much better than XP and I never had any problems with it, unlike windows 7 that caused so many problems for me when it came out that I had to go straight back to Vista, 7 became good after a while.

 

[Okedokey]

Personally, I love Windows 10, and really enjoyed 8.1 after I put Classic Shell on it. A matter of preference I suppose, but I've not had stability issues on any OS that were noticeable, and I've been able to cope, learn, and grow to love every Windows GUI as I get them. Granted, I've been spoiled, and jumped into all the good ones; Started with Win 95, then Win 98, then XP, then 7, then 8, 8.1 and now 10. Never had to deal with Vista, or Millennium. Don't remember much about 95, but I don't think it was well received.

That said, if you're that concerned about it and are going to be resistant to the changes made, then just stick where you're at. Just don't be that guy who starts complaining about things that were fixed in the upgrades you didn't take part in

Barring my liking for 8 after Classic Shell, this comes to mind:

I do wonder how many of you have actually even used 50% of those...

 

[Origin Saint]

I do wonder how many of you have actually even used 50% of those...

Why the skepticism? I've personally owned computers with 3 of them, and I've used others enough to understand 5 of them. It really isn't that outlandish...

 

[voyagerfan99]

I do wonder how many of you have actually even used 50% of those...

I've been using computers since Windows 3.1

Even before that I was using some form of DOS on a computer in preschool to play Putt-Putt.

 

[Darren]

I do wonder how many of you have actually even used 50% of those...

I've used 6 of the 8 on my own machines, 3.1 and Vista being the only 2 out of that list. Your condescension is palpable.

 

[Shlouski]

I do wonder how many of you have actually even used 50% of those...

All but 3.1, I started out on win95 and used all of them for years apart from win10 that I have only be using for 2 months. The difference in looks between xp and vista was large, I remember how dated xp look after getting used to vista, same for win98 and winXP, not that looks are the only thing that matters. I have not felt like this since, I often use win7 and win8 and they don't look dated to me yet.

 

[Jiniix]

Believe I shared a 95 with my brother, had my own 98, XP around SP1 or SP2 and then an Alienware with Vista when I turned 14 (expensive gift from danish tradition thing). Windows 7 upon release and tried Windows 8.1 for about three months a while after 8.1 dropped. Right back to 7, then 10, back to 7 recently and now I'm waiting for the Anniversary Update to go back to 10
I believe what caused me to get in to PCs was Vista and/or drivers frying my GPU while going to hibernation/sleep at a LAN...

 

[Okedokey]

I've used 6 of the 8 on my own machines, 3.1 and Vista being the only 2 out of that list. Your condescension is palpable.

Get over yourself Darren.

 

[Origin Saint]

Get over yourself Darren.

Hey now, you're the one that started the conversation by being condescending. I'd have to think the person that, without instigation, insinuated that the majority of the people here haven't used multiple OS' or as many as they had in a rude and condescending manner would be the one that needs to get over themselves. Not the person who called them out for being condescending in the first place.