My whole point here was the power supply really needs to be replaced. Dont give a big crap about the CPU rail. Its not overloaded. Isnt going to matter if its overclocked a few 100mhz. or not. Its the system rail thats pretty much at its limit. If the dude just looks at YouTube videos all day or just looks around on the internet most of the time, it isnt going to matter much. But if he games alot, it will go out sooner or later.
@StrangleHold, I really have to ask. Was the only reason you responded to this topic to take shots that my PSU is crap? :U
@87dtna, Thank you for all of your helpful information. I am still paying attention to this topic.
That aside. It's nice to see this discussion (as off topic as it is) tipping a bit more into 87dtna favor.
As StrangleHold has just said, adding a couple extra MHz to the CPU most likely WILL NOT cause much of a hit.
BigFella, StrangleHold. I appreciate all the technical talk you have put into the discussion, but Overclocking is meant to have the possibility of dangers, whether its frying something, or slicing a year or two off one thing or another, or possibly nothing at all. If I were to put the money into giving myself a completely "Safe" overclocking, I might as well as just buy better grade things with a factory clocked speed of my preference.
That being said, I also see that I may be stressing my PSU in general. But look, this was my old PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182044
Efficiency > 65%
Output +3.3V@22A, +5V@16A, +12V1@15A, +12V2@16A,
[email protected],
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MFTB 100k hours at max. load, normal line and 25°C
3 years of heavy use with plenty of uptime, and it still works just fine. The fan isn't dead yet, and quite honestly it doesn't feel as though its pushing any less air. The fan just started to make annoying noises, which really couldn't be fixed.
Even after the fan started to make noise, I still used it for several more months before the fan noise finally got to me, and I decided to pick up a new one.
And just to stop any "the heat killed it" arguments, it was already past the hot season when the fan began to make noise, and it was far into the hot season when I decided to replace it. Keep in mind, the few hottest days of summer here are around 110F, with a decent amount of humidity. With the average summer day in the high 90F's, possibly very low 100F's.
It never gave me any technical issues whatsoever.
This is the new PSU, as you have most likely already seen:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182032
Efficiency > 72%
Output +3.3@30A, +5V@55A, +12V1@19A, +12V2@19A, -12V@1A,
[email protected]
MFTB 100k hours at 25°C, max. load, nominal input
Now, I apologize if I skipped over any other important details that might break this idea, but the newer one seems quite a bit better then the older one. Maybe not MUCH better, but still quite an improvement. I certainly would not have tried to overclock anything on my older PSU, given the fact its low grade and I felt I was already pushing it slightly. I mean, I believe I only paid like $30-40 for the thing. I'm sure 3 years may not seem like a long time for a top-quality PSU, but I feel like I got my moneys worth out of it.
This is not comparing a crappy 600W PSU to an ultra-quality 500W PSU. This is comparing a crappy 600W PSU to an even crappier 500w PSU.
I would probably say the 600W is 1.5 times better (IN MY CONDITIONS, maybe not straight off the technical readings), or at LEAST 1.3 times better then my older one.
Do you REALLY think that I still need to upgrade? I went from 3 years (and still working!), even through 110F weather, on a $35 500W with extremely cheap parts (Rosewill, apparently), to a $70 600W with cheap parts (again, Rosewill apparently) that seems to be atleast 1.3 times better then the previous.
I don't mind if you want to point out that they really aren't quality built PSU's (you have shown plenty of proof), or that they won't last as long as they could. I don't really mind if the thing blows up after 6 more months, although I'd feel like I've gotten my moneys worth if it lasts 2-3 years or more.
The way this topic went, it makes me feel like a god for the fact my poorly made 500W has lasted so long. Of course, that goes away with every other post saying my 600W shouldn't even handle my system, but hey. Whatever.
I think you would have better luck explaining how the hell my 500W is working perfectly fine, then trying to tell me my 600W is scrap metal.
Again, we are comparing a poor quality 500W to a poor quality (albeit better quality then the 500W) 600W. As StrangleHold has just said (And 87dtna has been saying), overclocking a few hundred MHz will not effect my current setup.