Graphic Card needed

[goranpaa]

So Don't you thinks i should let this card go coz
1. Its costlier than what i planned to spend on GRPAHICS
2. It will make me buy a new power supply, thus costing me even more!

Can u please suggest some card that will work well with my current powersupply?

That depends? But you your options for a decent caard with will be very limited with you present powersupply. The cards will be narrowed down to the GTX 750 TI and the Radeon HD 7770 pretty much.

Yes, if you want good over all graphics and game performance? The video card will be one of the more exspensive posts for a pc when upgrading.

2. That is unfortunatly often the case when the manufacterer of the pc goes cheap on the powersupplys Wattage. Wich is a very common thing with prebuild pc's.

 

[sudcell]

That depends? But you your options for a decent caard with will be very limited with you present powersupply. The cards will be narrowed down to the GTX 750 TI and the Radeon HD 7770 pretty much.

Yes, if you want good over all graphics and game performance? The video card will be one of the more exspensive posts for a pc when upgrading.

2. That is unfortunatly often the case when the manufacterer of the pc goes cheap on the powersupplys Wattage. Wich is a very common thing with prebuild pc's.

So, compromising on another 2GB of RAM and 2TB of internal HDD is justifiable for that CARD is what u mean?

 

[goranpaa]

alright
Thought if only 2 games, then what's the fun

I have a 22" LED Monitor.
Will i be able to play any of those with ultra settings?


And how much is the performance difference between my current 1GB 8400GS and the 2GB 270?

Also, mine is DDR3 and i think the 270 is DDR5
It will work for sure, right??

Well, even if you for the moment are just playing 2 games. You might find another that will have higher demands on the video card later on.
Besides, would'nt it be nice to be able to watch movies and photos that looks really sharp and detailed too?

Those games wont be any problems on really high settings. My 270X is almost identical to the 270 just slightly faster. And if I at the time, when I whas looking for a new card, did'nt had the luck of finding my MSI 270X pretty cheap on a short term sale? I would definite have gone for the 270 instead.
the 270X, crushed my previous Radeon HD 7770 in my 2 favourite games: Skyrim and Oblivion wich are hard core modded too. With all those high texture mods installed, the demands on the video card will rise noticeable.

The 270 will flatten the 8400GS serverly. It's like comparing an old WolksVagen Beetle car to a modern Porsche sports car. The 8400GS is an entry level video card that is'nt really meant for gaming at all.

And the 8400 are very outdated by todays video card standards. That goes even for todays similar cards like yours.

The video card RAM version does'nt have any compability problems when you swap for a new card. This, as the card memory ie. GDDR are integrated into the video card. And there are'nt any compability problems between the Pc RAM and the GDDR video card ram either. A video card, is pretty much a computer in it's own right.

 

[sudcell]

Well, even if you for the moment are just playing 2 games. You might find another that will have higher demands on the video card later on.
Besides, would'nt it be nice to be able to watch movies and photos that looks realy sharp and detailed too?

Those games wont be any problems on really high settings. My 270X is almost identical to the 270 just slightly faster. And if I at the time, when I whas looking for a new card, did'nt had the luck of finding my MSI 270X pretty cheap on a short term sale? I would definite have gone for the 270 instead.
It crushed my previous Radeon HD 7770 in my 2 favourite games: Skyrim and Oblivion wich are hard core modded too. With those mods installed, the demands on the video card will rise noticeable.

The 270 will flatten the 8400GS serverly. They are compairabel like compare an old Wolksvagen Beetle car to a modern Porsche sports car. The 8400GS is an entry level video card that is'nt really meant for gaming at all.

And the 8400 are very outdated by todays video card standards. That goes even for todays similar cards like yours.

The video card RAM version does'nt have any compability problems when you swap for a new card. This, as the card memory ie. GDDR are integrated into the video card. And there are'nt any compability problems between the Pc RAM and the GDDR video card ram either. A video card, is pretty much a computer in it's own right.

Thanks for the update
Am very happy after reading the above.

Just the last thing now..
Do i really need to upgrade my power supply
if yes, then please mention the exact model no. atleast 2 of them so that i can find them on amazon.com

 

[goranpaa]

So, compromising on another 2GB of RAM and 2TB of internal HDD is justifiable for that CARD is what u mean?

Yes, providing you are'nt i dire need of more HDD space? Then 2 TB is still pretty much overkill, when 1 TB will be sufficent for most users. Better then to get a 2 TB external, USB HDD drive later on for storing your important files etc. If you will find that you need even more space later on?

About 2gb of RAM?
Well, If you are on a 64 bit Windows? Then you might consider getting another, identical 2 - 4 gb of Pc, DDR RAM. But on a 32 bit system you will manage with 2gb as the 32 bit Windows just only can handle max 3 gb. And adding just another 1 gb stick wont be worth it.

 

[goranpaa]

Thanks for the update
Am very happy after reading the above.

Just the last thing now..
Do i really need to upgrade my power supply
if yes, then please mention the exact model no. atleast 2 of them so that i can find them on amazon.com

Youre' welcome. Glad I could be of any small assistance to you.

If you really think you will be fine and dandy with the GTX 750Ti? Risking that you might not be able to run the games at high - full eye candy settings and not getting much of a future proofing either? Then no powersupply uppgrade are needed. Othervice as said, go for a new psu and the Radeon R9 270.

Here are a couple of suggestions:

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Modul...12331707&sr=1-4&keywords=modular+power+supply

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Current...1412331930&sr=1-3&keywords=antec+power+supply

 

[goranpaa]

Even if you reason that the psu + video card upgrade feels exspensive right now? Have in mind that these hardware will serve you well for a pretty long time span....Especially the psu. And if you spread the cost over that time? Then you will discover that the upgrades wont be exspensive all in all really.

EDIT. If you get the Radeon card? Make sure to uninstall the Nvidia card driver and the Nvidia PhysX software before you install the AMD Catalyst, Radeon card driver! Do not install the ( outdated ) driver from the cd that comes with the card. Get a fresh one from AMD home.

Videocard driver uninstalling tutorial: http://www.computerforum.com/230370...nstall-graphics-drivers-amd-nvidia-intel.html

 

[sudcell]

Yes, providing you are'nt i dire need of more HDD space? Then 2 TB is still pretty much overkill, when 1 TB will be sufficent for most users. Better then to get a 2 TB external, USB HDD drive later on for storing your important files etc. If you will find that you need even more space later on?

Well, i ain't in dire need as i already have 1TB internal and 1TB x 2 external HDD's.
I use them for storing movies, games and TV Series, nothing special

About 2gb of RAM?
Well, If you are on a 64 bit Windows? Then you might consider getting another, identical 2 - 4 gb of Pc, DDR RAM. But on a 32 bit system you will manage with 2gb as the 32 bit Windows just only can handle max 3 gb. And adding just another 1 gb stick wont be worth it.

Nah, am on 32-bit windows and i currently have 2GB x 2 i.e. total 4GB of RAM
The planned upgrade was 2GB stick + 4GB stick!

 

[sudcell]

Youre' welcome. Glad I could be of any small assistance to you.

If you really think you will be fine and dandy with the GTX 750Ti? Risking that you might not be able to run the games at high - full eye candy settings and not getting much of a future proofing either? Then no powersupply uppgrade are needed. Othervice as said, go for a new psu and the Radeon R9 270.

I don't know all that.!
Am just gonna do as u say
And yea, now that i think, spending another 20-30$ won't be much pain if i am getting want you are saying

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Modul...12331707&sr=1-4&keywords=modular+power+supply

how's this as compared to:

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Current...1412331930&sr=1-3&keywords=antec+power+supply

if there's not much difference then i would want to go with the former, for obvious reasons!!

 

[sudcell]

Even if you reason that the psu + video card upgrade feels exspensive right now? Have in mind that these hardware will serve you well for a pretty long time span....Especially the psu. And if you spread the cost over that time? Then you will discover that the upgrades wont be exspensive all in all really.

EDIT. If you get the Radeon card? Make sure to uninstall the Nvidia card driver and the Nvidia PhysX software before you install the AMD Catalyst, Radeon card driver! Do not install the ( outdated ) driver from the cd that comes with the card. Get a fresh one from AMD home.

Videocard driver uninstalling tutorial: http://www.computerforum.com/230370...nstall-graphics-drivers-amd-nvidia-intel.html

Alright!!
Am hell bent on flying off next year (to Australia ) end so was thinking of not spending much but now i feel for a time span of 1yr. i WANT TO get a good card
Thanks for the suggestions and help

 

[ninjabubbles3]

Not much difference, both are good, reliable companies

 

[Darren]

Okay stop.

Card: Buy a GTX 750 TI. Will work with your PSU. Much higher than that is going to get bottlenecked by your CPU.
RAM: Don't upgrade RAM because your using 32 bit windows, which can't use more than 4GB now anyway. You should find a way to upgrade this if you can to 64 bit.

Also can you guys please edit posts instead of posting two back to back. Keeps the clutter down and it makes it easier to read.

Your CPU is only a dual core and will seriously bottleneck games from the last year or two (that's not to say you can't play them, but getting a better video card won't make a difference for this). There's nothing you can do about it within your budget unless you want to spend 200 bucks on a new CPU.

The graphics difference between a 750 TI and an 8400 GS is mind boggling. If you're just getting in to PC gaming with a good card you don't need to worry about maxing everything, high and medium is going to look amazing to you when it's running at a high FPS if you've been using an 8400 GS. An 8400 GS is basically at the level of onboard video anymore.

Also a 750 TI will be fine for gaming for a year (and probably longer) anyway. Don't spend more than you need to.

 

[sudcell]

Out of these which is the one that u recommended?

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p...r9+270&ie=UTF8&qid=1412348942&rnid=1249135011


My Processor is an i3 by intel not dual core

EDIT: A friend of mine asked me to wait for the GTX 960 which is about to get launched soon

 

[Darren]

270X is probably pushing it for your PSU. Get a 270 or 750 TI if you want to keep your PSU.

I like MSI cards for nVidia cards but they're all pretty similar.

 

[sudcell]

270X is probably pushing it for your PSU. Get a 270 or 750 TI if you want to keep your PSU.

I like MSI cards for nVidia cards but they're all pretty similar.

what's the difference between Sapphire, Asus, Gigabyte and MSi?
I can see the same model no. with each of these!!
Which one to go for??

And my screen resolution is 1920 x 1080p
and it does not have a HDMI port

 

[sudcell]

@Denther, @ninjabubbles3 reply..

 

[Darren]

All those different companies manufacture a video card that has the same chip on it but they vary primarily in cooling (fan setups), warranty, rebates, customer service, and sometimes they have slightly different clock speeds. Generally the clock speed difference isn't much and you can tweak that yourself if you really feel the need.

Just find the best one price wise and go with that. When you get the card make sure it has a DVI connection, most do. It's the one on the right of this picture.

 

[sudcell]

270X is probably pushing it for your PSU. Get a 270 or 750 TI if you want to keep your PSU.

I like MSI cards for nVidia cards but they're all pretty similar.

When you get the card make sure it has a DVI connection, most do. It's the one on the right of this picture.

What's the DVI connection for?
Currently my Screen is connected with VGA

 

[goranpaa]

It's for connecing a digital signal cable to the monitor.... Providing your monitor have such a DVI connector or a HDMI dito connection that is? Often, you won't get any digital cable of any kind with the monitor bundle. Just an analog VGA. Modern cards comes with all 3 kind of connectors.

A digital cable, will give you a noticeable sharper image.

The HDMI cable are only useful if you have and use the monitor speakers or a SPDIF sound device? Or want to run the video cards signal to a flat screen TV?

The DVI cable will only provide a digital image signal.

 

[Darren]

Check the back of your monitor, I bet it has a DVI connection. If not then you can just use a DVI to VGA converter that comes with almost every video card. Honestly I've never noticed a difference between VGA and DVI but I'm sure there's a little bit. I wouldn't worry about it too much.