Will it work with Vista?
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tlarkin
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explain why in details you would recommend getting 64bit, because I think you just are suggesting it because on paper it sounds better.
ThatGuy16
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Ask anyone here... its just as supported as 32bit, and you can actually use 4gb of ram. Also whenever 64bit apps start coming out you will be ready to go. Most people think 32bit "sounds better on paper"
use the search tab, there are tons of threads on this.
tlarkin
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Well I am not a software developer but I can tell you from my professional experience in IT, that 64bit is not anywhere near being a standard platform for windows. Developers have not released support for it yet. Vista has been in production for over 6 years and released for over 9 months and driver support still sucks for it. Having over 3.25gigs of RAM does not even improve system performance unless you are actually using all of it. Also, since Vista is also the biggest flop of upgrades and major companies like HP and Dell and Lenevo have decided to let their customer's get XP on their systems still and people are still gettting it, there is no pressure on the developers to even start making 64bit applications.
Just because you can argue it is more "future proof" really means squat with technology. Anyone could have argued that with any technology that has failed, but looked good on paper when it first came out. EDO RAM, RAMBUS, laser disk, mini disk, beta max, cat3, IPX, so on and so forth.
What application or game will take up more than 4 gigs of RAM? To the point where you are having to access so much virtual memory it slows your system down? I don't even think you understand how memory access works in a computer Thatguy16, and I am not trying to call you out or dis you but you don't provide any facts with any of your advice.
Given Microsoft's track record, the fact that Vista has extremely high system requirements and overall is kind of a crappy OS compared to all other OSes currently out, given that it has been out for 9 months and in production for 6 years and given its current state I would say it is a no brainer. Driver support is not only buggy, but also absent in 64bit windows. This includes both 64bit XP and 64bit Vista. I have the 64bit version of Vista Business on my work desktop and have been using it since relase (beta before that) and I have had tons of issues getting devices that work flawlessly in XP to work with it. I was asked by our IT director to test out vista, so I did. I installed it, added all of our supported technology to it, on a system which should be able to handle it, and have had nothing but issues on it. Being able to run 4gigs of RAM would not fix any of my issues.
Just because you can argue it is more "future proof" really means squat with technology. Anyone could have argued that with any technology that has failed, but looked good on paper when it first came out. EDO RAM, RAMBUS, laser disk, mini disk, beta max, cat3, IPX, so on and so forth.
What application or game will take up more than 4 gigs of RAM? To the point where you are having to access so much virtual memory it slows your system down? I don't even think you understand how memory access works in a computer Thatguy16, and I am not trying to call you out or dis you but you don't provide any facts with any of your advice.
Given Microsoft's track record, the fact that Vista has extremely high system requirements and overall is kind of a crappy OS compared to all other OSes currently out, given that it has been out for 9 months and in production for 6 years and given its current state I would say it is a no brainer. Driver support is not only buggy, but also absent in 64bit windows. This includes both 64bit XP and 64bit Vista. I have the 64bit version of Vista Business on my work desktop and have been using it since relase (beta before that) and I have had tons of issues getting devices that work flawlessly in XP to work with it. I was asked by our IT director to test out vista, so I did. I installed it, added all of our supported technology to it, on a system which should be able to handle it, and have had nothing but issues on it. Being able to run 4gigs of RAM would not fix any of my issues.
ThatGuy16
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Umm ok... i never said you would even need 2gb of ram, and i do infact know how it works..
Call me out, or provide facts? are you kidding? If he needed it then i would have provided some "facts". I mean why not get 64bit vista when you get all the advantages and more with the 64bit version? I think this is a thread on drivers, not a debate on my knowledge, your knowlege, or vista.Kornowski, like i said in my other post, 32bit would be fine.. if you don't plan on or need what 64bit has to offer.
tlarkin
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You don't get any advantages at all. 64bit support sucks, there is no advantage. Other than 64 bit memory addressing, which no one even really utilizes yet. I would wait until there is better support for 64bit because who knows if or when developers will release proper updates. They may just make you buy new equipment, and not support legacy equipment which happens all the time.
INTELCRAZY
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I don't really get it, could you re-phrase that please
Yeah, In the two links I've posted above they say there isn't any support for 64bit Vitsa, only ones for the 32bit version. So now I don't think I'll be getting Vista... Bummer!
Just get a different receiver and Vista... Inventel, yeah, what kinda company is that?
I can tell a bit of difference with PS Elements 5.0 load time in Vista. And the OS loads faster in 64-bit.
tlarkin
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This is the illusion of loading faster because Vista pre loads everything in memory, thus making raising the minimum specs and using more RAM. Vista in general does this regardless of 32bit or 64bit versions, and it also why vista devours your RAM.
I would have to see hard data on that before I believe it. No company or organization has upgraded to vista really yet, and half the vista user base is using 32bit versions, and Vista isn't selling and PC manufacturers are not selling any laptops. All sales are down for this year, unless it is Apple their sales are way up. 64bit XP isn't even widely used at all. The home users only really represent a small percentage when comparing it to enterprises which run 1000s and 1000s of computers.
tlarkin
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Your adapter is USB and if it is that one that is linked it looks rather cheap so it is probably a legacy product which means there is a good chance the developer will not write new drivers for it. They will make you buy the new product which is supported, or maybe not depends.
Is this going on a laptop or a desktop? Also, the link you provided said it goes to a specific router, not reciever, is that just jargin barrier from the states and the UK. Do you guys call wireless access points "reveivers"?
You could also go plug it into a vista machine, perhaps a generic driver works, or you can force a generic driver to work.
Kornowski
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Nope, it's a USB reciever, it's this one...
This link says it's supposed to work with Orange Livebox (Internet I have)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brand-New-Inv...ryZ45002QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
and this one says it's a plug in and play one, but it doesn't say if it'll work with Vista...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Inventel-Wire...ryZ45002QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Yeah, it's that one, and, Yeah, it is cheap, it came with out router. I looked it up and the Orange company don't distribute them with their routers any more and apparenlty Inventel don't make them anymore.
It's for my Desktop PC, Yeah, that's what I've heard, they somehow got it to only work with the Livebox Router, don't know if another reciever would work though?
So find somebody with Vista, plug it in and see what it does you mean? I know of one person I can test it with, I think they have x32 bit Vista, would it make a difference if I'm looking at x64?