Need help building a new cpu

paratwa

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It's up to you, but I think vista is way over rated. But that is my opinion. But it is also hated by a lot of computer related magazines and by hard core gamers. I am not saying that you should never get vista, but I would wait until sp2 comes out at least. And wait until it has matured to be as stable as XP. As far as DX10 goes, there are tons of rumors floating around that it will be ported to XP because of the pressure being put against Microsoft because of lagging sales. And since the demo of crysis has come out, and it can be modified to use the high settings that were only supposed to used with DX10, well I am taking a wait and see approach to Vista.
 
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tyl2704

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so all the parts posted so far are completely compatible with eachother.

yea XP vs. Vista is really the only thing im having trouble deciding on. I'm figure it out eventually.

Since the holiday season is coming up do you think there will be some better parts dropping in price to say...around the price of the parts listed now?
 

holdenssx

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that friend of mine also has a NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB video card, how much better is the video card that you listed paratwa...if any. I thought the GTS' were better than the GT's.

The 8800GT's are new card. It runs on par with a 8800GTX, so it is much better then the present 8800GTS. Later this month, I believe on the 19th, the new updated 8800GTS's will come out, which will be better then the GT's. They are supposed to start at around $305.
 

paratwa

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The parts you have now will be dropping in price, but the newest parts coming out will be more than the prices of the parts on the list I made. I have heard that the newest processors might be coming out pretty cheap, but it's a waiting game to see what they will be going for on release.

You might save a couple of hundred by waiting a month or so to buy the parts I listed. And yes, the parts I listed are compatible with each other.
 

Jabes

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It's up to you, but I think vista is way over rated. But that is my opinion. But it is also hated by a lot of computer related magazines and by hard core gamers. I am not saying that you should never get vista, but I would wait until sp2 comes out at least. And wait until it has matured to be as stable as XP.

sp2? u mean sp1 right I have vista and don't see any problems with it and i can play games like bf2 on it and if your getting a dx10 card why not get vista because xp doesn't have dx10
 

paratwa

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The 8800GT's are new card. It runs on par with a 8800GTX, so it is much better then the present 8800GTS. Later this month, I believe on the 19th, the new updated 8800GTS's will come out, which will be better then the GT's. They are supposed to start at around $305.


If the prices are as cheap as that for the new GTS, then you might want to wait to get one of those.
 

paratwa

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sp2? u mean sp1 right I have vista and don't see any problems with it and i can play games like bf2 on it and if your getting a dx10 card why not get vista because xp doesn't have dx10

No, I mean sp2 for vista, I am not going to buy vista until then, just like I waited for XP sp2 to come out. And XP does not have DX10 YET! Why should I give up a OS that is very stable and matured, for a brand new buggy, poor driver supported OS. Just because of a few games that have not even come out yet that will run on DX10. I am a betting man, and I am betting that either XP will get DX10 support, or that the majority of game companys are not going to require DX10 for their games.

From what I have seen so far (crysis demo) DX10 is a sham.
 
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oscaryu1

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No, I mean sp2 for vista, I am not going to buy vista until then, just like I waited for XP sp2 to come out. And XP does not have DX10 YET! Why should I give up a OS that is very stable and matured, for a brand new buggy, poor driver supported OS. Just because of a few games that have not even come out yet that will run on DX10. I am a betting man, and I am betting that either XP will get DX10 support, or that the majority of game companys are not going to require DX10 for their games.

From what I have seen so far (crysis demo) DX10 is a sham.

I have to disagree with that. Vista may be as crappy as Windows Me, but Microsoft came out and tried to help solve the problems... and Vista may suck FOR RIGHT NOW, but when the SP / 2nd SP comes out, anyone would buy it.
 

paratwa

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I have to disagree with that. Vista may be as crappy as Windows Me, but Microsoft came out and tried to help solve the problems... and Vista may suck FOR RIGHT NOW, but when the SP / 2nd SP comes out, anyone would buy it.

What part are you disagreeing with? The fact that I said I was going to wait until SP2 came out for vista? Or that DX10 was a sham?
 

Jabes

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No, I mean sp2 for vista, I am not going to buy vista until then, just like I waited for XP sp2 to come out. And XP does not have DX10 YET! Why should I give up a OS that is very stable and matured, for a brand new buggy, poor driver supported OS. Just because of a few games that have not even come out yet that will run on DX10. I am a betting man, and I am betting that either XP will get DX10 support, or that the majority of game companys are not going to require DX10 for their games.

From what I have seen so far (crysis demo) DX10 is a sham.

dude all those parts are vista compatible or they wouldn't b selling them :D
 

tyl2704

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would that tower have enough space for two of those disk drives plus a card reader (dont know exactly what they're called...but they read sd cards and the like).
 

paratwa

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your just saying not to get vista because he'll have problems right? :confused:


I was saying that vista still has bugs. Period.

And yes it will be a while before Vista sp2 comes out, but thats ok by me. When it is more stable and does not have the problems it has now, and when all of the company's making hardware gets their act together and fixes all of their drivers, then I will probably get it.

It's the same situation as when XP first came out, it was buggy as hell. I waited until SP2 came out before I bought it. And when I did buy it, I liked it, because by then it WAS a stable OS. But I still had no use for some of the features that came out with XP. I still use the classic skin for XP that is the same skin as with Win98. I don't need all the flashy crap that came with XP and I sure do not need all of what comes with Vista.
Yes Aero looks cool, and If DX10 ever becomes a must have thing, then I could see getting Vista. But right now none of that is a must have. It's just pretty. Not really any better than Xp, it's just new, and that's all vista is. Function over flash, that's how I look at it.

Right now XP is a very stable OS, and I have no need of all the pretty bells and whistles that Vista has. So why make the change, at least on my part.

I tend to hold on to things until they do not work anymore, I have owned cars until they just were not worth fixing anymore (15 years or so). I do not go out and by the newest cars just because I can say I drive a NEW car. Can I afford to? Yes I can. When I do buy a vehicle, I buy them a year or so old, that way I do not loose the depreciation of just driving a new car off the lot.

It's Tyl2704's decision whether he wants to use Vista or not. I am not telling him not to use it, just that there are still problems with it. And mentioning the alternatives.

And why do you get so defensive about Vista? Do you have stock in the company? Do you really think it is light years ahead of XP? Do you feel superior to others because you have the newest OS on the market?

Step back and take a hard long objective look at Vista. Is it really all Microsoft said it was going to be? Could it be better than it is? I say it could be much better, and I am willing to wait until it is.
 

Jabes

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would that tower have enough space for two of those disk drives plus a card reader (dont know exactly what they're called...but they read sd cards and the like).

two dvd drives plus a memory card reader? yea that should work if thats wat your talkin about
 

Jabes

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I was saying that vista still has bugs. Period.

And yes it will be a while before Vista sp2 comes out, but thats ok by me. When it is more stable and does not have the problems it has now, and when all of the company's making hardware gets their act together and fixes all of their drivers, then I will probably get it.

It's the same situation as when XP first came out, it was buggy as hell. I waited until SP2 came out before I bought it. And when I did buy it, I liked it, because by then it WAS a stable OS. But I still had no use for some of the features that came out with XP. I still use the classic skin for XP that is the same skin as with Win98. I don't need all the flashy crap that came with XP and I sure do not need all of what comes with Vista.
Yes Aero looks cool, and If DX10 ever becomes a must have thing, then I could see getting Vista. But right now none of that is a must have. It's just pretty. Not really any better than Xp, it's just new, and that's all vista is. Function over flash, that's how I look at it.

Right now XP is a very stable OS, and I have no need of all the pretty bells and whistles that Vista has. So why make the change, at least on my part.

I tend to hold on to things until they do not work anymore, I have owned cars until they just were not worth fixing anymore (15 years or so). I do not go out and by the newest cars just because I can say I drive a NEW car. Can I afford to? Yes I can. When I do buy a vehicle, I buy them a year or so old, that way I do not loose the depreciation of just driving a new car off the lot.

It's Tyl2704's decision whether he wants to use Vista or not. I am not telling him not to use it, just that there are still problems with it. And mentioning the alternatives.

And why do you get so defensive about Vista? Do you have stock in the company? Do you really think it is light years ahead of XP? Do you feel superior to others because you have the newest OS on the market?

Step back and take a hard long objective look at Vista. Is it really all Microsoft said it was going to be? Could it be better than it is? I say it could be much better, and I am willing to wait until it is.

I just like it and home premium is cheaper then xp so hey tyl2704 check this thread out http://www.computerforum.com/101712-why-do-people-hate-vista.html
oh and srry bout the double post
 

tyl2704

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oh yea, and one more thing...I've been reading that the quad core processor that you selected can be overclocked to insane amounts (3.4 or higher). So I'm wondering if 1.) is it safe? 2.) If I do overclock it and have two disk drives and a media reader (sd cards) ...will I have a large enough power supply? and will the computer keep cool enough?
 

paratwa

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I just like it and home premium is cheaper then xp so hey tyl2704 check this thread out http://www.computerforum.com/101712-why-do-people-hate-vista.html
oh and srry bout the double post


I have read that link, whats your point? Nothing was said there that impressed me.

And let me make sure you get this straight, I do NOT hate Vista. I just think it's not ready yet. Just like I did not hate XP before I got it, it just was not ready until SP2 came out for it.
 
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