Bulldozer's gonna be on 'da cheapz!

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Pretty cool stuff :)
 
I was just reading that the FX-8110 Processor is going to have 3.0 gigahertz clock speed and 4.0 gigahertz turbo clock speed. If the FX-8100 Processor can get a turbo speed that high, I wonder what the FX-4110 turbo clock speed will get to?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldozer_(processor)#cite_note-21
I certainly hope they improve on their architecture with Bulldozer. This is looking a whole lot like an AMD version of Netburst. :(

Fingers crossed to not have an Intel monopoly.
 
if only, it's schedualed to be released in q3 of this year between july and september so we got from a 1 month(ment late july) to 2, possibly even longer but idk, and they ain't sayin much, i really just want to see some official benches for it, which i can't afford it anyways so it don't really matter.
 
Oh darn. I wonder why the 990fx boards came out so far apart from the cpu's? I'm starting to look at amd and radeon, and just shrug with a silly look across my face. Nothing they do as far as marketing makes much sense to me. I just say to myself "it's amd trolling the public again" and laugh, not hoping to understand. Seriously, would it be too much to ask for new chipmakers? Maybe the games will stop if amd and intel have some new competition.
 
I guess they're either building the new stepping, or have done so already and are manufacturing CPU's around the clock. Don't forget they are also busy the Radeon 7000 series as well, they will be out before the year is up.
 
Oh darn. I wonder why the 990fx boards came out so far apart from the cpu's?

Motherboard manufacturers already had the boards ready for release with AM3 bios support (the only Zambezi that they got were for ES chips) so they just released them. Easier to sell boards that will support AM3+ with the new chipset then not.


I guess they're either building the new stepping, or have done so already and are manufacturing CPU's around the clock. Don't forget they are also busy the Radeon 7000 series as well, they will be out before the year is up.

Right, it takes awhile even after the stepping is finished, to build up enough dies for a full release. Plus they have been going at these Fusion chips too.
 
Motherboard manufacturers already had the boards ready for release with AM3 bios support (the only Zambezi that they got were for ES chips) so they just released them. Easier to sell boards that will support AM3+ with the new chipset then not.

Plus it's extra profit.

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Right, it takes awhile even after the stepping is finished, to build up enough dies for a full release. Plus they have been going at these Fusion chips too.

That too.

Ivy Bridge just got moved to March 2012 as well: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/intels_ivy_bridge_cpu_launch_slips_march_2012
 

Intel is suppost to come out with some SandyBridges with higher mhz right about the time Zambezi is coming out. AMD needing a new stepping for higher mhz, looks like another mhz. war coming up.

Plus I think in the 2nd. quarter( probably later) next year a Enhanced bulldozer/Zambezi is suppost to be released. My guess its for the IvyBridge.
 
Intel is suppost to come out with some SandyBridges with higher mhz right about the time Zambezi is coming out. AMD needing a new stepping for higher mhz, looks like another mhz. war coming up.

Plus I think in the 2nd. quarter( probably later) next year a Enhanced bulldozer/Zambezi is suppost to be released. My guess its for the IvyBridge.

What do you mean by MHZ war??

You mean that the chips would have equality in performance based on their architecture but the Clock speed would be the deciding factor?
 
What do you mean by MHZ war??

You mean that the chips would have equality in performance based on their architecture but the Clock speed would be the deciding factor?

Dont know if they will be equal clock for clock.

Since AMD is going for a module vs. a Intel Core with HT. It would probably vary in which benchmark. But if Zambezi is equal clock for clock, with the module set up. It will be a killer in single thread or multi thread.

What I meant was since Intel is coming out with some higher mhz SandyBridges and AMD wanting a new stepping for higher mhz. Looks like we will be seeing who can clock the highest.
 
Dont know if they will be equal clock for clock.

Since AMD is going for a module vs. a Intel Core with HT. It would probably vary in which benchmark. But if Zambezi is equal clock for clock, with the module set up. It will be a killer in single thread or multi thread.

What I meant was since Intel is coming out with some higher mhz SandyBridges and AMD wanting a new stepping for higher mhz. Looks like we will be seeing who can clock the highest.

Yeah the module would be killer. I read you explanation on the module thing.
Is that explanation derived from trustworthy sources or is it a mixture or some assumptions combined with some information??
If the given explanation comes out to be true the Zambezi would be awesome :D
 
Yeah the module would be killer. I read you explanation on the module thing.
Is that explanation derived from trustworthy sources or is it a mixture or some assumptions combined with some information??
If the given explanation comes out to be true the Zambezi would be awesome :D

Yeah, that pretty much the way a module will be set up.
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If a module is running a single thread it gets one set of pipelines, has its own L1 cache. Can use the Full Fetch/Float Point Schedular/Decode and has its own Interger Schedular and the full L2 cache.

AMD claims with two threads it has 80% performance of two full core, with just 12% added space of a single core.
 
Yeah, that pretty much the way a module will be set up.
Bulldozer_core_small.png


If a module is running a single thread it gets one set of pipelines, has its own L1 cache. Can use the Full Fetch/Float Point Schedular/Decode and has its own Interger Schedular and the full L2 cache.

AMD claims with two threads it has 80% performance of two full core, with just 12% added space of a single core.

So breaking everything down to Assembly instructions.So 1 thread would get 2 pipelines and will be processed by 1 module.
So if every instruction is given to alternatively divided (Assuming this) between the pipelines so even the single core applications will be processed by 1 module ie 80% the performance of 2 cores.

Tell me I am getting this right or am I completely off track.
 
It is so funny to me. I want to have a good basic understanding of computer technology and how it works. Getting into the specifics is pointless to me because the technology likely gets abandoned within five years. From my basic understanding, Zambezi core processors use a better architecture and they are more powerful than older Deneb and Thuban central processing units.

I just want to see the numbers. The anticipation makes it fun though.
 
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