Bulldozer's gonna be on 'da cheapz!

linkin said:
Llano has released today, you may want to check out the prices for that. Also, AMD has stated they are going to start discontinuing the Athlon II and Phenom II series, so you may be able to get good prices on them in the near future.
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I OMG'd when I saw the article:
http://www.techpowerup.com/148246/AMD-Introduces-Vision-A6-3650-and-A8-3850-Desktop-APUs.html
I didn't know they were going to be released so soon! We needz benchmarks! :)

EDIT: Crap, performance still sucks! :angry:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4476/amd-a83850-review/3
Guess we're back to waiting for Bulldozer...
 
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Yeah, we the people who have decent video cards do not care about the Accelerated Processing Unit technology. We are all waiting for the new AMD central processing units. It is fun for me waiting for the first Zambezi line of processors to release.
 
I emailed AMD asking about support for Zambezi in my board (which has the right socket and the wrong chipset, so to speak) and they told me more details will be released closer to release. Trying to pry a little more info out of them... To see whether it's the BIOS that will need to be updated and whether it will support turbocore and power saving features or not. We'll see soon I hope... We could be only one month away from BD, or as long as two :(
 
Well truly the llano is a slightly upgraded athlon ii, maybe the same as a phenom performance of same clock, but the closest athlon is 90, the gpu is supposed to be close to that of a 70 buck gpu, and that article said it was like 135 so that's 160 worth for 135 plus the dual gpu thing it does when paired with a true gpu on the board to boost performance, so i like this idea, and does anyone know where to get a llano, i know it dropped a couple weeks ago for developers but haven't seen any on sale for customers. this would do anything i wanted, as you can tell i'm not getting a high power anything so no bottlenecking danger and the integrated can do all i need, i don't even care if gaming on high res, i play crysis on 800x600 all low no tex. packs or anything, mainly do to integrated gfrce 7050(sucks worse than donkey sack), almost crapped myself when it played it, but still gets worse fps on tf2, and you can all feel free to help in my thread in the mobo section.
 
linkin said:
I emailed AMD asking about support for Zambezi in my board (which has the right socket and the wrong chipset, so to speak) and they told me more details will be released closer to release.
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It will fit a AM3 socket and run on a 800 series chipset. But as far as I know, Asrock isnt going to update any of there AM3 boards bios for Zambezi, neither is Gigabyte. Want you to buy a AM3+ socket. Asus and MSI have/will/does. Dont know if Foxconn or Biostar will or not.
 
2048Megabytes said:
Yeah, we the people who have decent video cards do not care about the Accelerated Processing Unit technology. We are all waiting for the new AMD central processing units. It is fun for me waiting for the first Zambezi line of processors to release.
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Apparently you can crossfire with the integrated GPU, though. That might be kinda useful.
jonnyp11 said:
Well truly the llano is a slightly upgraded athlon ii, maybe the same as a phenom performance of same clock, but the closest athlon is 90, the gpu is supposed to be close to that of a 70 buck gpu, and that article said it was like 135 so that's 160 worth for 135 plus the dual gpu thing it does when paired with a true gpu on the board to boost performance, so i like this idea, and does anyone know where to get a llano, i know it dropped a couple weeks ago for developers but haven't seen any on sale for customers. this would do anything i wanted, as you can tell i'm not getting a high power anything so no bottlenecking danger and the integrated can do all i need, i don't even care if gaming on high res, i play crysis on 800x600 all low no tex. packs or anything, mainly do to integrated gfrce 7050(sucks worse than donkey sack), almost crapped myself when it played it, but still gets worse fps on tf2, and you can all feel free to help in my thread in the mobo section.
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Yeah, the GPU does seem pretty nice. The CPU might bottleneck it though, lol. :)
 
2048Megabytes said:
Yeah, we the people who have decent video cards do not care about the Accelerated Processing Unit technology. We are all waiting for the new AMD central processing units. It is fun for me waiting for the first Zambezi line of processors to release.
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+1
Actually I do not even concern myself with the concept of APUs.
I just want AMD to concentrate on giving me beastly CPU performance and Let me worry about the GPU. :D

So any Final Release Dates??
And also any more speculations about the BullDozer?
 
well if you had looked into the apu, supposedly it's gpu is supposed to have a feature that combines with the gpu you have to up the power, so actually you might like the idea, since it's also throwing the power of a 70 buck gpu, which i know you'd never be caught dead with :), for 45, so since you go for every bit of performance you can get you might want to look at it, once they're running these on the bulldozer or phenom ii platform that is.
 
i meant as in an over 3ghz six core platform instead of the 2.9ghz quad that is more closely related to the athlon ii, not as in the actual phenom which the last almost page was talking about them being discontinued and my poit, the sales and clearences and price drops resulting from this to come.
 
we can always hope can't we, and remember that the ghz doesn't really mean too much, i know it matters so don't say all that crap, but i think it was the isp or whatever where the clock to clock is where intel pulls out the big guns and blows amd to oblivion
 
jonnyp11 said:
but i think it was the isp or whatever where the clock to clock is where intel pulls out the big guns and blows amd to oblivion
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Dont really understand what that means.

If you mean Intel Core 2 and up vs. AMD Phenom and up. Yes Intel is faster clock for clock.

If you mean Intel SandyBridge/IvyBridge vs. AMD Zambezi. I have no idea how fast Zambezi will be clock for clock. So I couldnt say.
 
that's something someone wrote and i read and he was saying that intel's isp or something was different and that's why pr clock it was/is faster, and i was saying that in that article it's clocks are nice but we don't know its performance because of them because an amd clock performs different than an intel clock.
 
it doesn't matter that they have different clocks. The only way to compair the clock for clock performance is to run the same benchmark program on with the same GPU, PSU, HDD, RAM, cooling setup and clockspeed, and compare the numbers. This will tell you if they are equal or which one is faster clock for clock.
 
Is it worth investing in? Last year's spendings set me back and i'm just starting to recover, so I wonder is it like world's better than what I have?
 
again, i was saying that we don't know the performance from the ghz, since the clock performance isn't the same as anything else, so we don't know how well it will do if it does run at the 3.2 with 4.2 turbo. and Russ88765, it isn't out yet and there are no actual benches out for it that are confermed so we don't know if it is worth the investment, but for now all we can invest is our time, now if only that made a diff in the price so i cold actually get 1.
 
we will need to wait on some official stats to make a call like that. Basically right now if this weeks llano release shows anything toward the future, it will be just a improved Phenom II.

However, it could be leagues better than the Phenom II x6. If AMD pulls an intel on us, then it will be. (to understand that, look at the 990x vs 2600k stats).
 
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