Bulldozer's gonna be on 'da cheapz!

mihir said:
So breaking everything down to Assembly instructions.So 1 thread would get 2 pipelines and will be processed by 1 module.
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No, Each module has 2 sets of 4 pipelines for a total of 8 (the reason it shows up to the OS as 2 cores). A single thread would use 1 set/4 pipelines. Using 4 pipelines total

If a module was running two threads, each thread would have its own set of 4 pipelines. Using 8 pipelines total.


mihir said:
So if every instruction is given to alternatively divided (Assuming this) between the pipelines so even the single core applications will be processed by 1 module ie 80% the performance of 2 cores.

Tell me I am getting this right or am I completely off track.
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If it was running a single thread, it would be 100% of a regular core. If its running 2 threads it would be 80% of two full regular cores.

What you get with a module, 80% performance of 2 full cores. With only 15% more die space as a single core.
 
StrangleHold said:
If it was running a single thread, it would be 100% of a regular core. If its running 2 threads it would be 80% of two full regular cores.

What you get with a module, 80% performance of 2 full cores. With only 15% more die space as a single core.
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so in theory will this beat or be close to intel, either way it sounds like some good power to me, i'm plaaning on the quad or an i5 ivy
 
jonnyp11 said:
so in theory will this beat or be close to intel, either way it sounds like some good power to me, i'm plaaning on the quad or an i5 ivy
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I've learned not to make guesses. The Phenom I looked good on paper. But just turned out to be 4 Brisbane cores with added L3 cache and DDR2 1066 support. Turned out to just be alittle faster then a Athlon 64 core clock for clock.

But Zambezi is a completely reworked core, not just a Phenom II core with a extra set of pipelines. Just going to wait till its released.
 
k, and since they're in those modules, will it be able to disable all but 1 or will the 2 be stuck on, don't matter much but it keeps on popping into my head and i want it to stop.
 
jonnyp11 said:
k, and since they're in those modules, will it be able to disable all but 1 or will the 2 be stuck on, don't matter much but it keeps on popping into my head and i want it to stop.
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Dont know, they haven't released much on how the clock down works. If its by module or core. Dont know if each set of pipelines on a module are linked with voltage and multiplyer or separate. From looking at the module I would say linked, but there could be more going on then meets the eye. lol

That is if you mean, can they clock each set of pipelines different or turn one off on the same module.
 
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yeah, that's what i meant, the turn one core off in the same module, i just wanted to see if this sounds right, it's sort of the same os the i7 ht'ing, but with 2 real cores, that sounded better to me b4 i thought about it, now it's a little confusing but i think u know what i mean, but i just hope that they do get this right and then hopefully both inel and amd will end up in a pricing war and all the consumers win.
 
With bulldozer schedualed for q3, amd has shown off another working system running on bulldozer based cpu'S, at a german confrence they showed off a dual socket server running 2 16core, which there will be quad sockets running 64 cores, but they didn't let out anything that we really want to know, namely, the speed

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...s_Off_Working_16_Core_Opteron_Interlagos.html
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2080551/amd-demonstrates-core-bulldozer-server

and some supposed llano pricing and info
http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/23146-desktop-llano-listed-in-europe
which i believe is around $186 for the a8-3850
 
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StrangleHold said:
Want I want to know. Is how it will run threads.

Say a 4 module/8 core. If its running 4 threads. Will it run 1 thread on each module(Which would be better performance) or run all 4 threads on 2 modules?
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+1. If they can pull off that kind of flexible threading, then I'll be converted to AMDism. :)
 
well right now there are alot of new articles saying people in amd are saying that leaving sysmark was cuz the processor sucks not the bench, and that bulldozer's not gunna be anything like they need, but i still remain optimistic.
 
jonnyp11 said:
well right now there are alot of new articles saying people in amd are saying that leaving sysmark was cuz the processor sucks not the bench, and that bulldozer's not gunna be anything like they need, but i still remain optimistic.
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AMD, VIA and Nvidia have left. Wanna know why? If you changed a VIA's CPU name to Intel it scored faster than with VIA as the name.

Back on topic:

Some fake SuperPi:

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And an overclocked 8130P, supposedly a B2:

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not sure what the first thing you said was about, and it's a little hard to see those pictures but i made it out and yeah people are also saying 3ghz clock and oc'ing to around 4.5ghz and being stable, but all these things are just rumors and we won't know anything for another couple weeks at the least, but i really do want to see some competition so that the prices get to come down a little hopefully.
 
Was told the same day Zambezi is released, the Phenom II X6 will be discontinued. All other Phenom II will be discontinued by the end of the year. Then the Athlon II will be gone some time in the first quarter of next year.
 
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Yeah, the prices have went down pretty much just in the last few weeks. Can already get a Phenom II 955 for 115 bucks with a 15 buck promotional card. Or a Phenom II 1090T for 180 bucks with a 15 buck promotional card too.

My guess the X6 prices will go down some more in the next month or so.
 
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god i hope somehow my dad can give me the 125 he ows me for my b-day next month, plus about 75 i get normally from familly, have a small part to get another 40 or so and then i can get the 955 or something around there and a cheap am3+ with 4gb ddr3 1333mhz then throw the hdd of my emachine in there so i'd get win 7 and 320gb free plus don't have to download my games again and anything else will go to bd and gpu, or better an athlon ii x2 255 i think for like 60 and that stuff with a decent mobo (100-125) then save for bd and gpu, or just none for now till christmas and get something on sale when i'v got closer to 400 or more hopefully, but all is very doubtfully,99% chance of the last unless i see a super deal on something good. feel free to donate and make a child's dream come true.
 
jonnyp11 said:
god i hope somehow my dad can give me the 125 he ows me for my b-day next month, plus about 75 i get normally from familly, have a small part to get another 40 or so and then i can get the 955 or something around there and a cheap am3+ with 4gb ddr3 1333mhz then throw the hdd of my emachine in there so i'd get win 7 and 320gb free plus don't have to download my games again and anything else will go to bd and gpu, or better an athlon ii x2 255 i think for like 60 and that stuff with a decent mobo (100-125) then save for bd and gpu, or just none for now till christmas and get something on sale when i'v got closer to 400 or more hopefully, but all is very doubtfully,99% chance of the last unless i see a super deal on something good. feel free to donate and make a child's dream come true.
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Llano has released today, you may want to check out the prices for that. Also, AMD has stated they are going to start discontinuing the Athlon II and Phenom II series, so you may be able to get good prices on them in the near future.
 
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