Comparing AMD phenom II X6 to Intel

4 cores on the I5 can get MORE done at a faster rate than 6 cores on the 1090T, clock for clock.

Not entirely true

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Way to go, a million benches that show ZERO clock for clock comparisons. Good job.

I5 760 or VS 1055t would be the correct comparison for clock for clock. There is no difference between the 1055t and 1090t except higher clocks, so looking at the 750 (which is still 133mhz slower clocked) compared to the 1055t in all those benches it's extremely close. Clock for clock, they are pretty much identical in performance with multithreaded apps, with intel whipping the Phenom II in all single threaded apps.

Here's a full clock for clock-

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/191?vs=147

And he can always get an I7 anyway and definitely have better performance hands down.
 
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Way to go, a million benches that show ZERO clock for clock comparisons. Good job.

I5 760 or VS 1055t would be the correct comparison for clock for clock. There is no difference between the 1055t and 1090t except higher clocks, so looking at the 750 (which is still 133mhz slower clocked) compared to the 1055t in all those benches it's extremely close. Clock for clock, they are pretty much identical in performance with multithreaded apps, with intel whipping the Phenom II in all single threaded apps.

What is your score @ 4ghz in Cinebench 11.5...?

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What is your score @ 4ghz in Cinebench 11.5...?
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I don't have cinebench, plus I'm not in possession of my I7 right now as a friend is borrowing it. I'm running my I5 655k right now.

That being said, all I7's beat all X6's clock for clock with any bench.
 
You could possibly simulate by just running 3 cores compared to my I5. The benefit is actually in your favor as the I5 only has 4mb L3 instead of the 8mb the I7 has.

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multi-threaded applications that use all 6 six cores will cancel out the Intel 4 cores that are better in single threaded applications.... there is a fine line here...
 
multi-threaded applications that use all 6 six cores will cancel out the Intel 4 cores that are better in single threaded applications.... there is a fine line here...

For some reason you just don't understand architectural differences. Core count is secondary when core speed is factored in.

Once again, he can just get an I7 and be faster no matter what.
 
4 cores on the I5 can get MORE done at a (faster) rate than 6 cores on the 1090T, clock for clock. This is because of architectural differences, the I5 cores are that much stronger that 2 more cores on the Phenom II (can't even match it's performance).

Clock for clock, they are pretty much identical in performance with multithreaded apps

Think you made my point all by yourself.
 
For some reason you just don't understand architectural differences. Core count is secondary when core speed is factored in.

Once again, he can just get an I7 and be faster no matter what.

Once again, applications that use all six cores at once will pretty much cancel out the benefits that intel has in single threaded applications and have more multi-tasking power than the i5.. maybe even the i7 quad
 
What apps use 6 threads??? And please don't give me the talk about future apps, because as I already said multithreaded apps have been around for almost 10 years and a quad core is still overkill at this point. So by the time something actually uses 6 threads specifically, the 1090t will be older than dirt in PC years.

Not the I7, just look at the benches strangehold put up. I7 860 and 1055t is the only decent clock for clock comparison there.

So are you going to run cinebench on 3 cores for a comparison yet? Or have you done it and are too embarassed to post? :D
 
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What apps use 6 threads??? And please don't give me the talk about future apps, because as I already said multithreaded apps have been around for almost 10 years and a quad core is still overkill at this point.

Not the I7, just look at the benches strangehold put up. I7 860 and 1055t is the only decent clock for clock comparison there.

Windows 7 uses all six cores in Multi-thread... and I can find others...
 
So are you going to run cinebench on 3 cores for a comparison yet? Or have you done it and are too embarassed to post? :D[/QUOTE]


I'll post it but it is not a accurate comparison between the i5 quad and i7.... your cpu is using 32mn technology....


NO, I am not going by WEI .....
 
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I'll post it but it is not a accurate comparison between the i5 quad and i7.... your cpu is using 32mn technology....

Uhh, the I7 with 2 cores/4 threads would definitely be faster. It has twice the cache size.

lower nm does not always equal higher performance, just like more cores doesn't either. Lynnfield architecture is actually faster/better than clarksdale because of double the L3 cache count. Plus, Lynnfield has a far superior memory controller. 32nm just means the die size is smaller, they did that just to fit the onboard graphics on the chip with the CPU.

Edit- I meant twice the cache SIZE not speed.
 
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Very well. I actually have an X3440 coming my way, and I will test to your heart's content at 4ghz. Should be here wednesday or thursday.
 
Sweet... the AMD x6 seems to be getting bashed and I would like to know where it stands against the i5 and i7.... I am sure they will trade back and forth....
 
Well the problem is about 6 months ago the quad core deneb architecture was getting outclassed in every aspect by the I5 quads and I7's just destroyed them. So, since AMD can't release their bulldozer yet, for some reason, someone came up with the idea of squeezing 2 more deneb cores on the die. The problem is, it's still slow deneb architecture. While the extra cores help, it's still outclassed by the faster core speed of the Lynnfield and Bloomfield's.
What AMD should have done is added more L3 cache, it would have helped, but six 45nm cores on one die was probably hard enough to squeeze on.
 
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