considering first build

Discussion in 'Desktop Computers' started by jd10013, Oct 26, 2018.

  1. jd10013

    jd10013 Member

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    hello all. as the title says, considering my first build. been playing around on newegg, and this is what ive come up with. thoughts, opinion GREATLY appreciated
    ASUS DVD-Writer Black SATA Model DRW-24F1ST d/BLK/B/AS - OEM
    DEEPCOOL TESSERACT SW Mid Tower Computer Case with Side Window and 2 Blue LED Fans SGCC+PLASTIC+RUBBER COATING
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti GAMING, 04G-P4-6251-KR, 4GB GDDR5, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC)
    Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G
    G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 4000 (PC4 32000) Intel Z170 / Z270 / Z370 Desktop Memory ...
    GIGABYTE Z370P D3 (rev. 1.0) LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z370 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard
    Intel Core i7-8700 Coffee Lake 6-Core 3.2 GHz (4.6 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 65W BX80684I78700 Desktop Processor ...
    Windows 10 Home - 64-bit - OEM
    DEEPCOOL GAMMAXX 400-CPU Cooler 4 Heatpipes 120mm PWM Fan with Blue LED Easy installation (AM4 compatible)
    Link Depot LD-NBOOK-KIT1 Cable kit, includes USB LED Light, Earphone, USB 2.0 Extension Cable, Adapter, Cable Ties, ...
    EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 Power Supply - ATX12V/EPS12V - 110 V AC, 220 V AC Input Voltage - 3.3 V DC, 5 V DC, 12 V DC, -12 V ...
    Seagate Cheetah 15K.7 ST3600057SS 600GB 15000 RPM 16MB Cache SAS 6Gb/s 3.5" Internal Enterprise Hard Drive Bare Drive

    comes out to about $1200. now, regarding this build, how good would it be, how long would it hold up before needing upgrades, have I left anything out, and how would it do on games? not looking for max setting on everything, but would like it to be able to smoothly play anything out there or coming out in the next year. also, being as I've always bought prebuilt, how would it compare to this:
    https://deals.dell.com/productdetail/1ksg
     
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  2. Cisco001

    Cisco001 Well-Known Member

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    No good. For $1200, this is my recommend list

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($160.98 @ Newegg)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($90.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($125.98 @ Newegg)
    Storage: ADATA - XPG SX8200 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB DUKE Video Card ($389.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.98 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Newegg Business)
    Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($98.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1161.84
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-26 10:02 EDT-0400
     
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  3. Deerling7

    Deerling7 Active Member

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    I know it's $100 more, but it's much more powerful.

    PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pQDjsZ
    Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pQDjsZ/by_merchant/

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor ($304.89 @ OutletPC)
    Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($116.98 @ Amazon)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($129.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($84.89 @ OutletPC)
    Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($369.99 @ Amazon)
    Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.90 @ Amazon)
    Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($21.65 @ OutletPC)
    Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($98.99 @ Amazon)
    Total: $1292.16
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-26 10:06 EDT-0400

    If you want to shave it down to $1200 then replace the 1070 with a 1060 6GB.

    Then again, Cisco001's list has a more powerful GPU in it with a less powerful CPU, but it would be good nonetheless.

    EDIT:

    Here are a couple more lists:

    With a (slightly) less powerful CPU and a (slightly) more powerful GPU: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KYgnMZ
    With a less powerful GPU: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7TnpWD
     
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  4. jd10013

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    never been a fan of amd chips
     
  5. Deerling7

    Deerling7 Active Member

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    Ever try Ryzen?

    It is amazing. And a better value than Intel chips as well.
     
  6. OmniDyne

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    AMD has caught up and even exceeded Intel in regards to price and performance, especially considering the inflated prices of Intel processors currently.

    Unless you plan on overclocking the 8700K to 5GHz and hitting 500 FPS in Counter-Strike, there's no justifiable reason to go Intel at this time.

    That Dell makes no sense, pairing an 8700 with a 1050ti.

    Also, the 8700 throttles hard with the stock cooler, so you'd have to put an aftermarket cooler on.
     
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  7. jd10013

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    they always go cheap on cards, well, unless you want to do an over priced upgrade. when I buy a dell system I typically replace the video card as soon as I get it. as for AMD, just enough bad experiences I doubt I'll ever buy another one.
     
  8. Deerling7

    Deerling7 Active Member

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    That's unfortunate...
     
  9. jd10013

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    I stick with whats worked. anyhow, how much difference is there between the 2666 and 4000 memory? is the 4000 worth the extra $100? same with the HDD, is it worth paying extra for the faster 15000?
     
  10. Deerling7

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    The extra $100 is not worth it. You will likely not notice the difference in gaming. I'd reccomend grabbing a SSD for your build to go along side with that HDD. And a 7200RPM HDD should suffice.
     
  11. jd10013

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    would the difference in the faster HDD be noticeable?
     
  12. Deerling7

    Deerling7 Active Member

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    Well, yes, but in this day using an SSD is a much better idea. Believe me, once you use a SSD you will never be able to go back to a regular old hardrive. SSD's also last longer, as well.
     
  13. OmniDyne

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    The entire Dell computer is overpriced, and contains an 8700 that thermal throttles. It's a rip-off.

    How does one have a bad experience with a microprocessor? Coming from someone who owns an 8th gen Intel processor and several AMD processors, I'm telling you you're better off with AMD currently. No debate.

    You need an SSD for sure.
     
  14. jd10013

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    I've owned many computers in my day, only ones that have ever had problems have been amd based ones. never had a problem with a system built around an intel chip. but hey, I know, everyone has their preference. coke/pepsi, ford/chevy etc. where on the MB does the the SSD? will most MBs accommodate them?

    as for the Dell, there's even less chance I'll mess with overclocking than of buying an AMD chip, lol
     
  15. Deerling7

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    It is true AMD wasn't the greatest in the past, but they've been killing it recently. Tons of us on this forum own Ryzen CPU's.
     
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  16. jd10013

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    not to resurrect an old thread here, but can anyone rate that processor/MB combo? MB's are all greek to me. I understand the socket specifications, and ports and all that, but never really go why they a $200 board costs $200 and a $70 board cost $70
     
  17. OmniDyne

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    Which combo? The original combo you posted?

    Generally, the higher the price of the motherboard, the more features that are included. More fan headers, RGB lighting features and controls, more USB ports, more PCI slots, etc. Boards above $100 can offer better overclocking.

    Nowadays, pricing isn't relative to quality.
     
  18. jd10013

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    yea, the one I listed. I'm often forced to base it a lot on reviews. exactly what should I look for in a board, considering:

    I have no intention of overclocking, and don't plan on doing anything exotic with it. just want to be sure it won't slow the computer, or lack slots for basic stuff like video cards, ram, optical, solid state, and HD drives etc. also don't want something that would be obsolete or slowing things down in a couple years. and compatibility. I get the sockets have to be right for the processors, and just about every video care will be PCI-e 16 and every board supports that, but the rest I have no idea.
     
  19. OmniDyne

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    I own the motherboard you selected, the Z370P D3, and I think it's a solid motherboard. I got it on sale for $50 through Newegg, though. I wouldn't have paid almost $100 for it since I don't overclock and I didn't need the extra fan headers or PCI slots.

    If you're not overclocking, and don't need more than one extra fan slot and PCI slot, then you should go cheaper.

    I still strongly advise against the i7-8700.
    I would say to downgrade to the i5-8600K, but it's way overpriced. I own the i5-8400, and it'll max anything out, but again, Intel prices are way over-inflated currently, and it's $60 over what it should cost. You're flushing your money down the toilet by going with the 8700.
     
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